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redeclipse6049
03-03-2010, 07:24 PM
Hey guys and gals,

whether you're a democrat or republican, i thought this was kind of disturbing news , if true...

Al Gore just tweeted this-
http://blog.algore.com/2010/03/coral_reefs_disintegrating.html

Stony2977
03-03-2010, 08:28 PM
He's just trying to get us worried again after his lies were exposed. If he's SO worried he should grind himself up and feed the remains to the reef. I bet anything all the corals would double in size from all the crap he spews. :biggrin:

redeclipse6049
03-03-2010, 09:05 PM
lol, no comment...

Fb Joe
03-03-2010, 09:15 PM
He's just trying to get us worried again after his lies were exposed. If he's SO worried he should grind himself up and feed the remains to the reef. I bet anything all the corals would double in size from all the crap he spews. :biggrin:

I don't think he personally made up the research :goldfish:

mike30g
03-03-2010, 09:28 PM
lol, no comment...

:beerchug::poke:

Stony2977
03-03-2010, 09:37 PM
I don't think he personally made up the research :goldfish:

No I don't think he did either but I wish he'd just shut up already. Earth's major global warming happened when the Ice Age came to an end and I don't think man had anything to do with that. :gay1: We should all do our best to keep the planet clean but in the end there isn't really anything we can do about it.

curlyq
03-03-2010, 09:51 PM
We should all do our best to keep the planet clean but in the end there isn't really anything we can do about it.

+1 for sure

SuperSteveMan
03-03-2010, 10:07 PM
If that's true, I guess we had better start stalking out tanks so we don't lose all these great species. haha! I've never taken that dude seriously.

Fb Joe
03-03-2010, 10:36 PM
No I don't think he did either but I wish he'd just shut up already. Earth's major global warming happened when the Ice Age came to an end and I don't think man had anything to do with that. :gay1: We should all do our best to keep the planet clean but in the end there isn't really anything we can do about it.

Earth isn't warming, so global warming doesn't exist, he's admitted that.
CO2 is rising rapidly, I'm pretty sure man did have something to do with that :gay1:

and chemistry proves what CO2 does to reefs, so why deny it with an opinion?

MNBobby
03-06-2010, 11:53 AM
I just think he needs someone to clean up his office... And I thought I was bad....

Screwtape
03-06-2010, 11:58 AM
We should all do our best to keep the planet clean but in the end there isn't really anything we can do about it.

Are we really that helplessly out of control that we can't help what we do anymore? That seems a bit silly. There are certainly lots of things we can do about it. Look how far we've come in 100 years, pre industrial revolution to now and say that humans aren't capable of amazing things. I'm pretty sure we can figure it out.

redeclipse6049
03-08-2010, 12:04 AM
Are we really that helplessly out of control that we can't help what we do anymore? That seems a bit silly. There are certainly lots of things we can do about it. Look how far we've come in 100 years, pre industrial revolution to now and say that humans aren't capable of amazing things. I'm pretty sure we can figure it out.

yeah, I'm sure we can figure it out (and we already are in a lot of ways) but the biggest problem will always be the people who don't think it's a problem so they'll keep throwing trash out of car windows, pour chemicals down storm drains, and not recycle anything or even make an effort. I've known some pretty backwards thinking people... one kid from texas who actually told me we should burn down the rainforest becuase it's not good for anything, and another kid who once said to me that he loves driving home from work at night and throwing all the garbage in his car out the windows....

some people...:mad:

holmstar
03-08-2010, 04:46 PM
Earth isn't warming, so global warming doesn't exist, he's admitted that.
CO2 is rising rapidly, I'm pretty sure man did have something to do with that :gay1:

and chemistry proves what CO2 does to reefs, so why deny it with an opinion?

Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 ± 0.32 °F) between the start and the end of the 20th century.[3][A] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes that most of the observed temperature increase since the middle of the 20th century was very likely caused by increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases resulting from human activity such as fossil fuel burning and deforestation.[3] The IPCC also concludes that variations in natural phenomena such as solar radiation and volcanic eruptions had a small cooling effect after 1950.[4][5] These basic conclusions have been endorsed by more than 40 scientific societies and academies of science, including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.[6]

But I'm sure that all of them are just trying to pull a fast one on the rest of us right? Go ahead. Keep believing that global warming is a myth if that makes you feel better.

Lando
03-08-2010, 09:10 PM
How can you tell if Al Gore is lying?...his lips are moving;)

Sandro
03-25-2010, 11:07 AM
How can you tell if Al Gore is lying?...his lips are moving;)

:gay1::beerchug:

ranger_reefer
03-25-2010, 12:31 PM
yeah, I'm sure we can figure it out (and we already are in a lot of ways) but the biggest problem will always be the people who don't think it's a problem so they'll keep throwing trash out of car windows, pour chemicals down storm drains, and not recycle anything or even make an effort. I've known some pretty backwards thinking people... one kid from texas who actually told me we should burn down the rainforest becuase it's not good for anything, and another kid who once said to me that he loves driving home from work at night and throwing all the garbage in his car out the windows....

some people...:mad:

Thats just ignorance no matter what side of the climate change issue you are on. Even if it doesn't affect the temperature or CO2 levels burning down the rainforest destroys one of the largest pieces of undiscovered biodiversity on the planet...and throwing your garbage out the window of a car is just disrespect...disrespect for every other person who has to look at that junk sitting on the highway...the simple fact is reefs are disapearing it doesn't matter if you believe in Global Warming or climate change it is happening (the reefs disappearing not the climate change or global warming)

Starfish
04-01-2010, 01:07 AM
But I'm sure that all of them are just trying to pull a fast one on the rest of us right? Go ahead. Keep believing that global warming is a myth if that makes you feel better.
But I'm sure that all of them are just trying to pull a fast one on the rest of us right? Go ahead. Keep believing that global warming is a myth if that makes you feel better.

Fb Joe
04-01-2010, 01:48 AM
But I'm sure that all of them are just trying to pull a fast one on the rest of us right? Go ahead. Keep believing that global warming is a myth if that makes you feel better.

Okay fine, global warming is a non-issue then.
As an issue greater that it is vastly more important.
Everybody links CO2 and temperature together. They have nothing to do with each other. Say the earth is warming, would it still be warming without us? Its hard to tell, but probably yes.
CO2, on the other hand is rising faster. Would it still be rising without us? NO. It would lower.

CO2 is the problem. It is fixable. You cant just turn the thermostat down on earth.

Chem Guy
04-01-2010, 08:47 AM
Everybody links CO2 and temperature together. They have nothing to do with each other. Say the earth is warming, would it still be warming without us? Its hard to tell, but probably yes.
CO2, on the other hand is rising faster. Would it still be rising without us? NO. It would lower.

CO2 is the problem. It is fixable. You cant just turn the thermostat down on earth.

Yes and no, to all these points. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, meaning it absorbs solar energy in the atmosphere and converts it to thermal energy. So yes, CO2 does contribute to rising temperature. It's not a huge factor though, so yes, saying a small increase in CO2 raises global temperatures is an exaggeration.

Would it be rising without us? We have no idea. Prehistoric eras had a much higher concentration of CO2. This supported accelerated plant growth, which supported giant herbivores, which supported giant carnivores. Seismic activity can release giant pockets of gases stored underground. It would take a cataclysmic event, but they do happen.

I agree that our contribution to pollution, be it CO2, sulfur, garbage, anything, should be "fixed". But I think we try to play god too much and try to lock the Earth in what we think is "normal". Millions of years ago it was a hot house, tens of thousands of years ago it was an ice ball. Neither was man-made. To say that further climate change is solely our fault is ignoring the unpredictable fact of nature. Things change. Species go extinct. Again, I think our contribution should be controlled to what a herd of 6 billion animals would naturally produce. I don't think we should try to stop natural changes.

CycleDeez
04-03-2010, 05:59 PM
I heard Al Gore invented the internet.