New addition to the 10 gallon

[Lukas]

Hi everybody!

So, I've had my little 10 gallon aquarium set up now (Ever since I got it) I placed the rocks in it and made a little cave (cause I knew that the fish would like it), The Salinity is good, I'm running carbon through the filter. Some algae will be coming in on monday, That'l lower some of the nitrates (which arent deadly high, pretty low) plus add some color to the plain white aquarium. I had heated up the aquarium, and have a back up heater for it, the temp is at about 71 right now, I'm trying to get it to 74-79.

So to say the actual fish I got, it is an Anglerfish. About 1 inch big. I'll get some shrimp today/tomorrow to feed him, the Brine and mysis dont stay in the same spot for very long so I'll have to get some coctail shrimp (I don't know what its called), but its the kind that people eat, and feed him with tongs/chopsticks. I do realize I will need as grow out tank in the future though.

I drop acclimated him/her, at first he (just gonna say that instead of him/her, or he/she) was Yellow, but since they can change color he turned whiteish gray, the color of the sand. I intended him to go to the cave to hide at first, but he went in between the rockwork I was ok with that though. Today he went in his cave though.


I've named him, Edgar. If its a girl than I don't know what it should be called.

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww204/ScreeniesMan/angler.jpg


-Lukas:biggthumpup:

[hypertech]

At the pet store, you can buy krill. Krill are small shrimp like salad shrimp but they still have their shells and are probably less expensive. You could also look at PE mysis. They tend to be larger. It may help if you turn off the pump so it doesn't blow around.

It shouldn't be hard to get the temp where it belongs. If it isn't warming up (and you're pretty sure it isn't your thermometer that's broke), turn the dial on the heater way up, grab it with your hand and lift it out of the water only briefly. You should it feel it starting to get warm. If it doesn't, then the heater is broken and not working. If it does start to get warm, put it right back in the water so it doesn't get too hot to touch while you are holding it.

[Lukas]

At the pet store, you can buy krill. Krill are small shrimp like salad shrimp but they still have their shells and are probably less expensive. You could also look at PE mysis. They tend to be larger. It may help if you turn off the pump so it doesn't blow around.

It shouldn't be hard to get the temp where it belongs. If it isn't warming up (and you're pretty sure it isn't your thermometer that's broke), turn the dial on the heater way up, grab it with your hand and lift it out of the water only briefly. You should it feel it starting to get warm. If it doesn't, then the heater is broken and not working. If it does start to get warm, put it right back in the water so it doesn't get too hot to touch while you are holding it.

Ok, I have some krill, I just wasn't sure If that was the thing to feed.

[Fb Joe]

And I don't know about the anglers that walk on the bottom, but the free swimming ones are always female. The males are tiny, and mate with the female by biting on to them. Then the bodies of the two fuse together and then the female can use her "tumor" to fertilize her whenever she wants.
Gross, I know :gay1:

Edit: Okay that info is just for deepwater anglers, the ones with the bioluminescent lures. The reef dwelling anglers and frogfish can have male/females, but I don't think there's a way to sex them

[PLNelson]

For that small of a tank, I would rely on water changes for nitrate control, more than algae. Those fish are messy too, so keep diligent on them. If this were my fish, I would start by feeding it live food and try to ween it to frozen. Feeder shrimp and guppies is where I would start.

[redeclipse6049]

KILL IT!!!!
:eek::eek::eek:


lol

[Lukas]

KILL IT!!!!
:eek::eek::eek:


lol

:eek2:
I'll try to get it to eat guppies/feeder shrimp first than ;)
he doesnt like the frozen/krill. He's doing great though :biggthumpup:

[Andrew.C]

How can you tell that he's doing great if he's not eating? How long have you been researching on these fish and how long has the tank been running?

[Lukas]

How can you tell that he's doing great if he's not eating? How long have you been researching on these fish and how long has the tank been running?

He does eat a little of the food, it just goes past him to fast.
I've been researching about 1-2 months.

[Andrew.C]

How long has the tank been running?

[Lukas]

How long has the tank been running?

Ever since I got it

[hypertech]

rofl

Good answer!

[Lukas]

rofl

Good answer!

:biggthumpup:Thank you

The Nitrates and ammonia are pretty low, getting lower.

[Andrew.C]

Wow;)

[Lukas]

Wow;)

;)yup;)

[Andrew.C]

That was pretty smart Alec, but hey I'm smart Alec half the time.......ROFL

[Lukas]

That was pretty smart Alec, but hey I'm smart Alec half the time.......ROFL

lol, what was smart alec?

[Lukas]

I just looked over at him again, and he's using his antenna (how ever you spell it) And is fishing for food, as I think he is. Tomorrow I'll get feeder guppies/shrimp though ;) He'll be a happy angler

[Andrew.C]

Quote: when did u set up the tank?-Andrew.c

Quote: when I got it.

:peeved:

[Lukas]

Quote: when did u set up the tank?-Andrew.c

Quote: when I got it.

:peeved:

oh, Sorry D;

[Andrew.C]

I'm just nagging ulol

[Lukas]

ok :biggthumpup:
thats a relief ;)

[Andrew.C]

:nixon: peace out peeps!!!

[Lukas]

Should I get Ghost shrimp as a feeder shrimp?

[Stony2977]

Sweet dude. But I think they are ugly as hell!:biggrin:

[Lukas]

Sweet dude. But I think they are ugly as hell!:biggrin:

Thanks, I think they are cute as teddybears :D

[Lukas]

He is terrifyed of the gobbies 0_o
I guess I should try smaller Ghost shrimp.
To try to feed him I used my fingures, a tweezers,
chopsticks, and putting it in the from of his face with
the net. He tried to get it when I used the net, he missed
though. Now he's up by the filter, starting to come back.

[Lukas]

Well....

So, the Angler (Edgar) got "Power headed" I had a foam sort of thing over it,
no nothing was able to get sucked in, I didn't see it happen. But when I
woke up and when to go see him, he was on the foam, I don't get how it
could have even hurt him. he was just on the outside of it, none of him even
touched the power head, only the foam. So I pulled him off as quickly as I
could. And now he's turned black, I suppose that's because he has no senes
anymore. I really don't get how it could have done anything to him.
I don't want to give up on Anglers though, A lot of people have told me that
It's going to happen, but I'm not going to take advantage of that and say it
was nothing. I'm still going to have the tank set up for another angler
sometime. I am going to frame the picture on the first page because it is the
best picture I have ever got. I also made a song about Anglerfish, called
"The Anglers dance". Hopefully I'll be able to show everybody that....

-Lukashttp://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww204/ScreeniesMan/thuimbup.gif

[Andrew.C]

He died!!!!

[Lukas]

He died!!!!

in a way that seemed impossible

[Andrew.C]

Sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lukas]

Sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yez....

[PLNelson]

Bummer. I hope the next one goes better.

Maybe if you put a divider up on one end so that the power head would be behind that. Ala biocube.

[Lukas]

Bummer. I hope the next one goes better.

Maybe if you put a divider up on one end so that the power head would be behind that. Ala biocube.

ya, it would be sort of hard though. The tank is a half moon, so a divider would'nt work so well.

I'm going to wait a little until the next one, than the tank will be even more ready. With the algae in it also.

[PLNelson]

I bet you could have something made at SF rather inexpensively. It would just need to be cut to size and have some teeth for an over flow, and maybe a hole to mount the return.

[Lukas]

I bet you could have something made at SF rather inexpensively. It would just need to be cut to size and have some teeth for an over flow, and maybe a hole to mount the return.

Ok, Do you think that would be better than a sheet of foam over it?

[BenJer]

Sorry to hear that. You can't always blame yourself though, the fish might not have been up to par when you got it.

[Lukas]

Sorry to hear that. You can't always blame yourself though, the fish might not have been up to par when you got it.

He seemed perfectly fine.
just during the night he decided to go up bye the power head, it might of been from shock though.

[BenJer]

Ok, Do you think that would be better than a sheet of foam over it?

It would be one less thing to worry about.

[Lukas]

It would be one less thing to worry about.

What other things to worry about?

[BenJer]

What other things to worry about?

I just meant that now that you have lost one you'll probably worry more about the next one. That's all.

[Andrew.C]

Sorry Lukas with a k..:(

[Lukas]

I just meant that now that you have lost one you'll probably worry more about the next one. That's all.

ok, Yea

[Lukas]

Sorry Lukas with a k..:(

Thanks

[Andrew.C]

Il always remember him as the little angler my mom hates:gay1::gay1:

[Lukas]

Il always remember him as the little angler my mom hates:gay1::gay1:

l ol ;)

[PLNelson]

I think this would be better than the foam over the pump intake, if that is what killed him. He may not have been very healthy to begin with. These guys seem to be a little ify. I know that SF has lost more than one for no apparant reason. With a divider in there, the worst you would have to worry about is the food getting behind it and dieing. You could then use some enkmat as a filter to keep stuff out of the back. I did not understand that this was a half moon aquarium, maybe you would not have the room.

[Lukas]

I think this would be better than the foam over the pump intake, if that is what killed him. He may not have been very healthy to begin with. These guys seem to be a little ify. I know that SF has lost more than one for no apparant reason. With a divider in there, the worst you would have to worry about is the food getting behind it and dieing. You could then use some enkmat as a filter to keep stuff out of the back. I did not understand that this was a half moon aquarium, maybe you would not have the room.

ok, it might be worth a try, to try to get a divider of some sort made

[PLNelson]

I was originaly thinking it was a standard 10, and to put the divider off to the left or right side. Maybe transfer it over to buckets and bring the tank into SF to see what they think.

[Lukas]

I was originaly thinking it was a standard 10, and to put the divider off to the left or right side. Maybe transfer it over to buckets and bring the tank into SF to see what they think.

ok, I might do that

[Fb Joe]

He seemed perfectly fine.
just during the night he decided to go up bye the power head, it might of been from shock though.

Died from not eating, did that from stress from ammonia in the tank.
Power heads don't kill fish. They just catch dead ones.

[PLNelson]

This is a good point.

[PLNelson]

Where did you get this one from? Also, I would message Triggerfish. He works at SF and has some experience taking care of the ones that they get in.

[Lukas]

Where did you get this one from? Also, I would message Triggerfish. He works at SF and has some experience taking care of the ones that they get in.

I got it from Vincent (silentdreammarine.com),
I'm pretty sure he did catch at least one guppy though

[PLNelson]

Even diying men get hungry.

[Lukas]

Even diying men get hungry.

yea, you'r right

[Andrew.C]

I think u should do some face to face talking to friggerfreak at sf for experienced advice as well as good info, not crap people say on the internet

[nate_mcnasty]

it's hard for me to believe that this fish got killed from a power head. Ammonia is toxic to fish. Did you have any live rock in that tank? If your tank isn't ready for fish don't buy any. Live and learn

[Lukas]

so turns out it was my fault

[Andrew.C]

Yes I beleive it is your fault:frown:

[Lukas]

Yes I beleive it is your fault:frown:

It has been proved multiple times

[Andrew.C]

Sorry, everything bad that happens to my tank is my fault too:gay1:

[PLNelson]

I think u should do some face to face talking to friggerfreak at sf for experienced advice as well as good info, not crap people say on the internet


Yup, nothin' but crap coming out of these lips.


How long was this aquarium set up for? And "Since I got it" is not an acceptable answer.

What were your Amonia, Nitrite, Nitrate levels at?

[Lukas]

Yup, nothin' but crap coming out of these lips.


How long was this aquarium set up for? And "Since I got it" is not an acceptable answer.

What were your Amonia, Nitrite, Nitrate levels at?

about 1 and a half months, ammonia and nitrite/nitrate were at .10

[Andrew.C]

U know when I said crap I didn't mean people on here, I was talking about the people selling them on fs sights.

[Lukas]

U know when I said crap I didn't mean people on here, I was talking about the people selling them on fs sights.

You mean like: this ( http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+19+63&pcatid=63)

[Andrew.C]

That site isn't too bad but yes.

[Lukas]

That site isn't too bad but yes.

ok...

[PLNelson]

U know when I said crap I didn't mean people on here, I was talking about the people selling them on fs sights.


I know, I'm just picking on you.


Also, what kind of water changes have you been doing in that time.

Ammonia is a huge NO-NO. Anything registering on a test kit is generally considered lethal to inhabitants.

I don't think that you should give up, I believe that you should be able to keep one very successfully in a nano, it just takes a lot more to do it. If you haven't already, start doing some heavy searches on other sites. Don't listen to what anyone has to say, except people that have actually kept them alive, NO ONE.

[Andrew.C]

Plnelson- that's good advice, Il see if I can raise rep foe that:biggthumpup:

[PLNelson]

Thanks.

[Lukas]

I know, I'm just picking on you.


Also, what kind of water changes have you been doing in that time.

Ammonia is a huge NO-NO. Anything registering on a test kit is generally considered lethal to inhabitants.

I don't think that you should give up, I believe that you should be able to keep one very successfully in a nano, it just takes a lot more to do it. If you haven't already, start doing some heavy searches on other sites. Don't listen to what anyone has to say, except people that have actually kept them alive, NO ONE.

So I should not listen to people who have actually kept them alive? Why not?

[Andrew.C]

He. Said only listen to people which kept them alive, and not to listen to people who havnt.

[PLNelson]

What he said. To many people like to play bench expert, and have no real experience to draw from. They just like hearing them selves Type(???). IMO, it's those people that make places like RC a pain to hang out in.

[Andrew.C]

True true

[wireefman]

is there an icon of a smiley jumping off a cliff.....

[Andrew.C]

There's one of me jumping off a cliff

[Lukas]

is there an icon of a smiley jumping off a cliff.....

why??

[Lukas]

so should I try again in like 2 months? or should I not do it again?

[Andrew.C]

Maybe 2 months is ok, that's a q for Wireefman.

[Lukas]

Maybe 2 months is ok, that's a q for Wireefman.

A q?...

[nate_mcnasty]

Only buy a fish when your fully prepared and your tank can handle it. Fish shouldn't be treated as something that is disposable. take your time, make sure you have every piece of equipment and have all the food you need ready.

[wireefman]

u cant put a time frame on things... its safe once your tank has 0 readings...

[Lukas]

Only buy a fish when your fully prepared and your tank can handle it. Fish shouldn't be treated as something that is disposable. take your time, make sure you have every piece of equipment and have all the food you need ready.

I never said I didn't care.

[nate_mcnasty]

i never said you didn't care.

[Andrew.C]

We know u care and a q is question

[Lukas]

i never said you didn't care.

You told me that fish said they should be treated as though they are disposable.
It seemed like you were specifically telling me I should not do that.

[nate_mcnasty]

I was just trying to say not to rush into getting another fish.

[Andrew.C]

Ok everyone's happy now!!!

[Lukas]

I was just trying to say not to rush into getting another fish.

Lukas-so should I try again in like 2 months? or should I not do it again?

[Andrew.C]

Good point Lukas

[nate_mcnasty]

so should I try again in like 2 months? or should I not do it again?

if you are fully perpared for the fish and the tank is fully cycled in 2 months then you could. if you don't have everything you need to take care of the fish or the tank isn't fully cycled then no.

[Lukas]

if you are fully perpared for the fish and the tank is fully cycled in 2 months then you could. if you don't have everything you need to take care of the fish or the tank isn't fully cycled then no.

ok ..

[Andrew.C]

Is every question you have answered yet Lukas?

[nate_mcnasty]

i was in no way trying to offend you. i'm just trying to give my best advice

[Lukas]

I never took anybody to offence. I'm just kind of frusterated.

[BenJer]

I never took anybody to offence. I'm just kind of frusterated.

It's part of the hobby Lukas. Along with all of that frustration come some pretty great moments as well. I've seen your posts and how hard you are working at learning, I think you're a little hard on yourself.

[Lukas]

It's part of the hobby Lukas. Along with all of that frustration come some pretty great moments as well. I've seen your posts and how hard you are working at learning, I think you're a little hard on yourself.

It was proven though that it was my fault. What Am I supposed to do to my self?

[MAXreefer]

What Am I supposed to do to my self?


:brick:

Just giving you a hard time here...;)

[Lukas]

:brick:

Just giving you a hard time here...;)

Should I do that or are you going to?

(just kidding....)

[Andrew.C]

Lukas you should give yourself a pat on the back for how far iv come, don't be hard on yourself.

[MAXreefer]

Should I do that or are you going to?

(just kidding....)

Na..I am way to nice here..but if you want me to I could give you a couple names of the bad and mean guys here on the forum..I am sure they would love to....lol

[Lukas]

Lukas you should give yourself a pat on the back for how far iv come, don't be hard on yourself.

......ummm.......

[Lukas]

Na..I am way to nice here..but if you want me to I could give you a couple names of the bad and mean guys here on the forum..I am sure they would love to....lol

ok :biggthumpup:

[Andrew.C]

I meant uv but spellcheck made it say iv, sorry:nuts:

[Lukas]

I meant uv but spellcheck made it say iv, sorry:nuts:

Thats ok, I knew you wouldnt be so selfish ;)

[Andrew.C]

I should have kept it that way cause its true;)

[Lukas]

I should have kept it that way cause its true;)

. :O .

[Andrew.C]

:gay1:

[Lukas]

:gay1:

That would be soooo selfish

[Andrew.C]

Yah it would

[amber]

RIP little guy!

[Andrew.C]

:gay1:

[Lukas]

:gay1:

:mad_3:

[Lewis]

Lukas, FWIW. I find myself sometimes, looking and searching for the answer to things and when I start getting other people involved things can get a little outa wack. Sit back, look at what u did wrong, look at what u did right and go from there. It does not matter if it was your fault or the guy down the streets fault. Live, learn, and most of all enjoy. We sometimes forget to enjoy why we got into this hobby, lifestlye. I am sorry to hear of your loss. That was an awsome fish. I say, if the horse bucks you off....Get back on...If she bucks you off again...go find the shot gun:nuts: Take care and ENJOY what is infront of you....Lewis

P.S. If something dies, and you want another one, go get it....But learn why he/she died and then you wont be burrying, flushing, eating another one..:gay1:

[Andrew.C]

Rip means rest in peace, so y r u mad at me

[Lukas]

Rip means rest in peace, so y r u mad at me

you did this: :gay1:
Right after.
but it doesnt matter anymore.

And lewis. I'm really happy now (not that he died), but my other tank looks really awesome, and it makes me supper happy to see all the happy corals. :biggthumpup:

[Andrew.C]

Y r u mad at me?

[Lukas]

Y r u mad at me?

nevermind

[Dhummel]

6 pages of.........:nuts:

[RyanTurner]

And I don't know about the anglers that walk on the bottom, but the free swimming ones are always female. The males are tiny, and mate with the female by biting on to them. Then the bodies of the two fuse together and then the female can use her "tumor" to fertilize her whenever she wants.


Disturbing. haha

[Andrew.C]

Exactly

[Lukas]

6 pages of.........:nuts:

7 pages now. And yes. That is very disturbing

[Dhummel]

I was hoping to read something more on your thread then one word statements all the way to page 6?

[Andrew.C]

:gay1::gay1::gay1::biggrin:

[Lukas]

:gay1::gay1::gay1::biggrin:

lol, Thats not even a word, Andrew!

[Andrew.C]

so how are things going so far, have you got the 10 back up and running yet?