Zoas looking kinda funny....

[redeclipse6049]

just curious if this is anything i'd need to be worried about...

the other day, a few of my Zoas started looking a little strange..
i'm kind of having a cyano bloom which has for the most part stayed off rocks and corals, and is just in the sand, but these zoas were on the sand bet and looked like they might have a little on them, not sure if that'd cause this, I GENTLY scraped the stuff off, (it was only on one polyp, and scraped is maybe too strong of a word, but you know... )

anyway, Just wondering if anyone would know what might be causing this. there was also something that looked like it could possibly be a very very tiny worm or something attached to one of the polyps, but it was way too small to get a photo of and might have just been something else. I removed that when I removed the bit of cyano.

they're a little bit more closed now than they were before, because they kind of closed up when I was taking the cyano off, but what i'm specifically referring to is how one area of the skirt looks kind of pinched. I've got some Bam Bams and those are fully open and looking beautiful.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4582153476_b5fe39f822.jpg

[Mike Bennett]

They just look a little pissed off to me. Doesn't look like a problem.

[redeclipse6049]

They just look a little pissed off to me. Doesn't look like a problem.

Could be... I forgot to say goodnight before I went to bad yesteday...

Guess i'll keep an eye on them. they're all open right now but all of them have one little pinched looking area.

[redeclipse6049]

update...
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4581850535_c79ba2748a.jpg

[Mike Bennett]

I'm not seeing any problems. Am I missing something?

[jwedll]

If the cyano needs to be taking off them again, instead of scraping or rubbing it all you need to do is take like a turkey baster and blow it off.

[redeclipse6049]

I'm not seeing any problems. Am I missing something?

no, they're looking better now

[redeclipse6049]

grr... now they're sorta pinched looking again. Not sure what's going on. They still seem fine other than that though... guess i'll just give it a few days

[Stony2977]

I have 3 frags that look just like yours. Watermelons? I've had them for about 3 months and they do the same thing. Sometimes they are completely closed and then they open up and look just fine. Also last week I noticed that one of them just decided to hop off the plug it was on and attach it's self to a piece of LR. Go figure?

[redeclipse6049]

I have 3 frags that look just like yours. Watermelons? I've had them for about 3 months and they do the same thing. Sometimes they are completely closed and then they open up and look just fine. Also last week I noticed that one of them just decided to hop off the plug it was on and attach it's self to a piece of LR. Go figure?

yep, they're watermelons. Mine actually fell off their frag plug a couple days after I put them in the tank (still attached to a little rock though) so I just glued them back on...

[Renk Fasze]

So is it cyno that is making that brownish film?

I just picked up a zoa frag that has the same thing going on.

Would a bit more directed water current help keep it clear?

[redeclipse6049]

So is it cyno that is making that brownish film?

I just picked up a zoa frag that has the same thing going on.

Would a bit more directed water current help keep it clear?

could be a number of things I guess..., I think that was the case with mine, but with yours, it might be something different. more current in the area where you're seeing it can never hurt though

[Mike Bennett]

So is it cyno that is making that brownish film?

I just picked up a zoa frag that has the same thing going on.

Would a bit more directed water current help keep it clear?

Brownish vs red/purple would also suggest Dinos.

[redeclipse6049]

or for the noobs out there- dinoflagellates

[redeclipse6049]

I'm hoping i can get some more help in this thread on a new issue that's happening with the watermelons now though.

Not sure what this is, don't think i've really seen anything like it before on my corals, so i'm just looking to get some opinions... the zoas (pictured next to the bam bams for size reference) seem to be dying, or something. This just started happening maybe a week ago at most. Gave them an iodine dip this morning because i don't have any of the fancy dippin' chemicals yet, the stuff that looks kinda white on the end closest to the camera is what used to be baby polyps...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4806322504_741057750e_b.jpg

[Merkurfan]

I know you where playing around with pumps a while back.. are they in an area where flow might have changed? I can't see anything on them that would upset them. I remember when I had a frag of zoo's just melt away for no reason I was told 'sometimes they just do that' by a very experianced zoo keeper.

[redeclipse6049]

flow should be about the same, could be a bit lower because I took the maxi jet out of the front of the tank (where it was being used as a powerhead) and replaced the return pump (with hydor flow attached) with a mj1200, so the flow is different, but i don't know if it really went down (or possibly up in that area) much. but yeah, I didn't see anything that looked like a parasite on them or anything

[Dragon Eye]

Zoas and Mushrooms both like dirty water.... and yes sometimes they just melt. You'll figure out down the road what you can keep and what just vanishes. I wouldn't drive yourself too crazy over what you aren't able to keep and enjoy the things you are.

[Lurch]

I have/had some zoas do the same thing. They started doing that, almost melted away completely, then started to come back again out of nowhere. I wouldn't worry too much.

[redeclipse6049]

alright, so it sounds like i should just... not do anything? Lol. that's easy enough. I've had the watermelons since the frag swap so its kind of sad to see that happening if that's just the way it is, but everything else seems to be doing alright , so I guess i'll just leave it be

[Merkurfan]

come to think of it, I have a frag of the same zoo's (maybe from the same person) melt down to a head or two and then with in days come back with tons of new heads..

Little more color to. If everything else if fine, you'll just have to watch them and see what they do.

[Mike Bennett]

Zoas and Mushrooms both like dirty water....

Nutrient rich, not dirty.

[redeclipse6049]

Nutrient rich, not dirty.

yeah, i knew what she meant. My mushrooms are doing great (and the rest of my zoas) so I don't think the water is the problem

[Alunai]

hmm. That's weird. Bump for an update and question of my own- What does it mean when a zoo pulls its skirt down over the polyp itself, so that it looks like a little bulging mushroom?

[hypertech]

hmm. That's weird. Bump for an update and question of my own- What does it mean when a zoo pulls its skirt down over the polyp itself, so that it looks like a little bulging mushroom?

Could be that it had a good meal. If you see stringy stuff coming out of the mouth, it is expelling waste. If it doesn't do that, something could be irritating it. If it is new or you have added something new, inspect it or do a dip (sometimes I even do a freshwater dip on zoas that are having issues) and look for eggs or nudis. I've never had nudis myself but I have seen them. They are very hard to spot as they are the same color as the zoas they eat. So, look carefully.

[kcooley]

Nutrient rich, not dirty.

they like it dirty!

[RaysReef]

they like it dirty!

go ahead and poop in your tank and see if they still survive ;)

[kcooley]

i wouldnt want to look at it, but i bet they would

[Thle009]

You could have something swimming by and messed with their space. I have some that close with I feed the fishies, but then open right after that.

[JimmyOrangeSeed]

go ahead and poop in your tank and see if they still survive ;)

Nice imagery. :biggthumpup:

[Alunai]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4806322504_741057750e_b.jpg

I thought maybe this would help- it looks like the dome-shaped middle and right watermelon zoanthids closest to the camera. How the mouth is the highest point on the zoanthid because it's holding it's skirt down. I'm wondering why mine is doing this. As far as I know, nothing could be bothering it.

[redeclipse6049]

I don't know... probably a bad sign, haha... I lost all the watermelons... there's your update.

the bambams however are doing great (although they haven't grown off the frag tile yet, but that could be because I've fragged them a couple times)

[Alunai]

Sorry to hear that buddy. I hope your bambams continue to do well! I may have to get a frag of those from you in the future!

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[redeclipse6049]

Sorry to hear that buddy. I hope your bambams continue to do well! I may have to get a frag of those from you in the future!

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yeah, hopefully they'll start growing onto the rocks so I can maybe cut the frag disc up or something... i've had pretty minimal luck gluing polyps directly to frag plugs, so i might need to try something different

[Alunai]

I'll be waiting! ;)