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sneeze
02-04-2008, 12:17 AM
i have a pair of ocellaris clowns that i got from a friend after they had laid a few batches of eggs. he never had the patience to raise the fry, so i traded with him. anyway, we moved them from his twenty gallon to my twenty gallon. they've been there a full week now, and the female is relentlessly surpressing the male. i expected it for a day or two, but he hardly comes out of his little corner other than feeding. if he ventures out, she gives him a good beating and he retreats to a corner she cannot get him. they are both doing the "wiggle, waggle, twitch" (which i read is a sign of mating, yes?) but as his fins are showing signs of this aggression, i am concerned. today, i noticed the female has begun hosting my LTA i've got in there and still won't allow the male near.
should i be concerned? or will she begin to accept him with time again? any idea how long? steps i can take to "help"? etc?
BonesReef
02-04-2008, 11:37 AM
they will begin to warm back up to eachother .....This happens almost every time a steady pair is moved. If you want to help out you can do a few things.
You can keep them feed, meaning multiple times a day. Also when they start to fight just turn offthe lights...They will stop fighting instantly..and then I would come back in and turn them on in an hour...( Keep in mind that this may not be good for some corals).
I would start out by trying those.
I would love to see a picture of this pair. I'm also always looking for spaning pairs to add to my broodstock system.
Thanks,
Brandon
sneeze
02-04-2008, 02:05 PM
thanks for the tips!
i've been feeding 3/2 times a day.
i'll have to try turning out the lights next time.
would it work to shorten my photo period until they hook up again?
if so, how short?
i'll wait till they 'get together' again before i try some pics.
i would like to try my hand at raising the spawn and see what i can produce.
it all sounds both easy and challenging at the same time.
cwk132
02-04-2008, 08:23 PM
our clownfish pair fought for about a week after we did a big tank move, even drew some blood, but they are happy now.
sneeze
02-15-2008, 01:22 PM
so it's been a couple of weeks, and my clowns are still fighting.
last night, i witnessed my female flying out of the water for a little carpet surfing. the male just kind of finds a corner (where she cannot find him) and "pants". no moving fins or anything. and when the female finds him again, she is relentless, oftentimes biting and holding on for 5 seconds at a time.
should i still just be patient?
i'm starting to wonder if i have too many hiding places in my LR and they aren't getting quite "aquainted."
then i get worried about putting them together in a bare tank and then he will have no where to hide.
any help?
If he's not too stressed, you might try the acrylic box technique for the male. basically you just attach one of those kritter keepers to a mag float, drill a bunch of small holes in it, and put one fish in there. That way they can be seen but not bullied/bully. I would do it with the more aggressive fish, but with a few pieces of PVC in there so there is some kind of hiding place. This is also a good technique if you have something like a clam that's getting picked on by an angel or the like. it seems like they realize that they can't get to it and when you put it back in the tank, it gets ignored.
sneeze
02-18-2008, 12:16 AM
so the female was put in a breeder net in the tank.
now that the male is out in site, i can see that most of his fins are bit off.
his tail is no more than a stub.
he's eating a little and swimming fine, so i hope he'll pull through.
let him eat healthy for a good couple weeks and he may make it. These guys can make it through a LOT. That clown I got from you is now at 95%, I'd say. He still struggles with eating large pellets, but overall he rocks. Thanks again! Let me know if that domestic situation resolves.
The hard part is if he dies do you dare put another one in there... the box works really well though.
Wes: I've put small cages over my corals but didn't realize it'd still work to put it in the box for a bit, sounds easier.
The hard part is if he dies do you dare put another one in there... the box works really well though.
Wes: I've put small cages over my corals but didn't realize it'd still work to put it in the box for a bit, sounds easier.
it's way easy--you can drill little frag holes in it, too.
be sure to feed him a lot, very little bits as often as you can of every vareity food you have (except brine shrimp --only try those if he's not eating)
sneeze
02-18-2008, 01:06 AM
the breeder net it working pretty good. she's charging at him behind the net, but he doesn't seem to mind. i'm hoping once he recovers, he'll begin that twitch dance again.
you think i ought to go for the clear box?
I'd probably do a bigger clear box once they're both a little recovered/used to their new roles. I'd make it almost like she has a spot in the tank, you know? Just a thought.
sneeze
02-18-2008, 01:33 AM
yeah, makes sense.
tough to do in a stocked 20g
i'll give it a try
I'd probably do a bigger clear box once they're both a little recovered/used to their new roles. I'd make it almost like she has a spot in the tank, you know? Just a thought.
sneeze
02-19-2008, 01:02 AM
so Mr. Clown didn't make it two more days. just pulled out his carcass.
so a new question arises... new thread. . .
sorry to hear about that, bro. sometimes love really does hurt.
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