Jebao question

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  1. patent

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    I've been debating springing for an vortech MP-10 v. buying a jebao rw-4 or wp-10. I'm wondering if the outside magnet on the jebaos can actually go in water. I'd be putting it in an all in one, and my preferred spot for the powerhead is on the back wall, so the "outer" magnet would be in the sump chamber, and thus would be wet. Anyone know if these are long term water safe? Or if I could sub in a different magnet and get it to work safely?

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    I have never had mine under water but the outside magnet is sealed so as long as there is no damage, I'm sure it will be fine. I have used 2 wp40's. Both worked great right up to the point where the pump just quit.
     
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    I am on my second wp-40. Worked great till it quit.

    I am not sure the magnet is actually sealed...
     
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    How long did they run until they quit?
     
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    I just had my first one die after 2+years... Power supply just died suddenly , picked up a new power supply for $23 and free shipping on amazon.
     
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    I got about 2 years out of my first WP-40 as well. It was from the first run. The power supply and controller still work. I didn't bother diagnosing any further since I didn't need it at the time.

    I have the "US" controller version that I bought in August of 2013 that is still kicking.
     
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    My frag rack came with plastic sealed magnets, might be able to find some replacement ones. Or a mag float might work as well.
     
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    Both of mine lasted about 6 months. The controller and power supplies still work, the pump just doesn't turn on.
     
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    Thanks for all the comments. I think Fish street sells replacement parts, fwiw.
     
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    Just pulled my RW 15s out of the box to have a look. The inside and outside magnets appear to be identical.

    They have a rubber gasket/cover that slips off easily revealing what appears to be a magent in a plastic casing.

    Here is the outside half with its gasket:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Of my 2 WP-40s I got 11 months on the first one when it failed. I spent $25 to get a replacement back end. The replacement is still running. The second one lasted 18 months. They want $45 to replace that one as it is over a year old. I decided not to replace it as a new one with all the parts is $65. I am also satisfied with the flow from 1. When that fails I'll get something that will hopefully be more durable.
     
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    Aside from the failures (get what you pay for) my biggest gripe with Jeabo's is they greatly reduce flow when dirty. More so than Tunze, I've not had Eco Tech. That said, I'm lazy and don't like servicing powerheads so take it for what its worth.
     
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    I don't either, honestly. I rarely take things offline to service them.

    If I thought the MP10 was foolproof and would last for 10 years for sure, I'd just spring for it, but I see those getting repaired left and right too. I would think they have to be better, but I don't know how much better. I do know for sure that I can't put the "dry side" in the sump of my allinone tank though. I think I probably am stuck to putting either one on a side pane unless I can find a better magnet that works with the jebao.
     
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    https://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BX0X06BR-N52

    Different sizes available, I use some on the outside (didn't want to mar the glass, I got the really big ones) for my Jeabo's. Would assume they would be fine under water.
     
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    I've used a bunch of the plastic coated ones from KJ for frag racks. I haven't had any problems.
     
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    Thanks, appreciate the recommendations.
     
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    As far as I can tell, the outer half is the same as the inner half (which is, of course, designed to be submerged 24/7).
     
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    I have a Wp-40 both magnets are the same on mine if that's any help
     
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    I had both magnets of a WP40 submerged in my frag tank for...6? months before I tore down my frag tank. Had the pump mounted on the internal overflow box. No ill effects and looked the same the day I removed it from the day it went in. FWIW.
     
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