Spsick 40 breeder

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  1. spsick

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    Displeasure with the shortcomings of an AIO tank and boredom of said AIO have forced me to build a new tank. I want to get back to what gave me years of success and thriving animals.

    I was looking at SCA, CADlights, etc but ultimately decided I would rather enjoy building everything from scratch. I have a good deal of the equipment so I figured what the heck- good winter project.

    Tank: 40 breeder w/ Synergy Shadow overflow

    Light: 6x24 ATI Sunpower

    Sump: 20 long with baffles I kept from the 75

    Return: Tunze Silence I had.

    Flow: 4x Jebao PP4 on 2 JBwave controllers

    Controller: Acjr still running strong so why upgrade?

    Undecided if I want stuck with ATS only, go ATS+Skimmer or just classic Berlin method that worked for me for years. Thoughts?


    Some progress shots

    Dry from from the 75 I had acid washed on teardown curing:
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    Stand base completed and tank successfully drilled! Still need to drill return holes but want to wait until I've decided if I want 1 or 2.
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    Gonna skin the tank similar to this
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    I'll be doing a 40b with the shadow overflow as well. Need to figure out how to cool the bit while not making a mess inside the house. A bit too cold out for that these days. I've always used a garden hose running over the bit, will probably have to try the plumbers putty dam technique.

    Looks like a great start!

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    Really love the skin you're planning on going with. Following along.
     
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    Narrowed down my skimmer options to:

    Octopus Regal 150 INT
    BK Double Cone 130
    SRO 1000INT

    I owned several Octopus skimmers in the past and they performed well. My main points of concern are consistency, reliability, and heat/wattage. I have read a ton on many new skimmers being finicky. Anyone have any experience with any of these models?
     
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    Can't say anything about the others, but my Regal 300int is an awesome skimmer. Easily the most consistent one I've had.
     
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    Upon further reading it sounds like all 3 of those are a bit large for my system- so I may go with a Icecap K2-120.

    Stand assembled and ready for sanding and putty. Doors to come after painting. Decided to make the stand 24" deep for more room under sump and daily tools/ kits behind tank on ledge.

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    I have a reef octopus classic 110 that I ran on my 40g frag tank that worked great. Very low wattage/heat and very consistent. You can also add a neck extension for a little more capacity if wanted.


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    I had an octopus classic 110int on my first saltwater tank, a 40 breeder with a 20 gallon sump. Was very pleased with it.
     
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    Good work on the stand. Looking forward to the finished project
     
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    Thanks for the input guys, in a completely different direction I opted for a Deltec SCA1351.

    Router table is set up so I just have to pick up the wood for the doors and I'll be in business.

    Now, to figure out if I can craft my own ATS....
     
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    Stand has 2 coats of primer, back of tank is painted with 3 coats of flat black, 2 of 4 doors assembled and sanded, skimmer breaking in on rock curing tank.

    Progress!!

    Now just pondering over buying a L2 scrubber or DIY. $400 is a hefty price tag but the fit and finish and plug and play aspects are A LOT nicer than what I would hodge podge together.

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    Unintentional beauty of this stand- allows for future upgrade to 36x24 tank!
     
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    The stand turned out looking great.
     
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    Progress! Putting the last coat of paint on the doors, finishing plumbing, got every piece of equipment I need except water movement. I have 2 Jebao PP4 and a JB Wave but I want additional units, preferably of higher quality but reluctant to bite a $600 bullet for 2 MP10s.

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    Great progress buddy
     
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    Looking nice!
    Have you looked at Rossmont for wave makers? I don't see much talk about them, but Ive had a couple for about six months and they seem pretty decent. The waver needs a little refinement but is a neat controller. They are a lot cheaper then mp10's.
     
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    Saw these at MACNA. Pretty slick for the price.

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    I've seen them but being so new haven't heard any feedback. Interesting they're AC but have speed control.
     
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    I don't want to clog up your thread too much but here is a quick review. I have two m900 in a 36" 30 gal. The magnets seem to be plenty strong although they are a little thicker on the dry side than most others. The motors are more quiet than the old "noisy drive" MP's. The housing is removable and sometimes removes itself when I hastily grab it to position the pump. If you don't squeezewhen grabbing they stay on. Not Sure this is really a fault but it did catch me by surprise a couple times. The pumps come with a removable concentration ring which does make a difference.
    The waver is pretty slick. I can get a nice 5/8" back and forth wave of with just a couple minutes of programming. It is definitely not as intuitive as they lead you to believe but once you figure it out, it is easy. The downside of the waver is it won't connect to my phone which kind of annoying. I think they need to upgrade the wifi portion a little. To be fair my phone is very old which probably doesnt help. I've been in contact with Rossmont and I can say they have been very responsive. They even sent me a beta program which is better if anybody needs it.
     
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    Thanks for your review Discus!
     
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    Stand is done. Just have to finish up painting the top trip piece and it's go time. Top trim piece has oak 1x1s behind to keep it on the rim, and the panel is glued to that so it all comes off easily as 1 piece for maintenance. Now I just have to live with the fact somehow 1 door came out a little twisted :'(

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