Upgrade for the fish?

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  1. KJoFan

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    So, I'm considering an upgrade in tank size to better accommodate my fish, as I feel long term they need more room.

    Current tank dims are 32x24x20

    My question is, what's more important, length or front/back depth? I know for the big swimmers, like tangs the length is key. My tang is a kole so..can be suited for a somewhat smaller tank.

    Options I'm looking at are:

    150g - 60x24x24
    120g - 48x24x24
    100g - 60x21x21

    Typically my thinking is that the front/back depth is mostly for aquascaping options, but I wonder if 3" is really THAT noticeable?

    Equipment wise I think they're all pretty well a wash.

    I need some input friends! And constructive input not just "go as big as you can". :)
     
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    Upgrade from the fusion 40? Are you wanting more fish or to just accommodate what you have?

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    Actually I'd be upgrading from my 66g. But, if I upgrade that, the IM40 would come down and I'd go with one tank only. So would likely be selling off the 66g, the IM40, and a 50g I have never even set up.

    I am looking to accommodate the fish I have better. So, if I don't upgrade my other option would be reduce fish and I don't really want to do that. :)
     
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    Lol makes sense. I can say from experience that consolidating to one tank is really nice. I would go with a 120 Fatboy personally, as it's just big enough for swimming room, and the 48" length is pretty standard for lighting, stands, etc.

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    I like 150g in your lists Karen. Go big or go home ;)
     
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    Yes, one tank would be nice and if I upgrade I have told my SO she must not allow me to purchase any more tanks in the future. :)

    I had a 120 fatboy a few years back and liked it. But, the 5' length is really attractive as far as additional swim room.

    My current light is a Reefbrite MH pendant. I'd likely go with the 36" double Reefbrite fixture which should work for either the 48 or 60" length.
     
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    I really like having at least 24" of depth from front to back.
    Three inches doesn't seem like much, but it can be the difference of having a coral grow too close to the front and start to impede flow throughout the tank. It's always nice to have that extra space available.

    As far as length is concerned, it's not that much of a difference for the fish. But... most commonly available aquarium equipment is engineered for a four foot long tank. The five foot long tanks fall into a "no-man's-land" when it comes to lighting; specifically LEDs as they like to fall into 24" blocks. It's not that big of an issue, but something to consider.

    If it was my choice, I would go with the 150gal and treat it like a six foot long tank. Why? "Go as big as you can!"
    Going from a 32" long tank to a 48" long is nice, but almost doubling the length to 60" is better!
     
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    Well you should be in luck as I don't have any tanks to sell in the size you're wanting .

    I like the idea of a 5' tank too. Sounds like you already have a plan either way. To me, it would just depend on the space you have and finding a tank you love. Plus there's always the go big or go home rule. Sorry, had to say it...but what if you want another Tang .

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    As mentioned, I think I'd go with the 36" MH fixture for lighting either way which I believe would work. Maybe I'd change lighting down the road, but I'm pretty stuck on MH for now.

    I'd like to stick to the clean lines of my current stand (super basic, but clean) [​IMG]

    It's probably grossly below your ability, but what would it take (costs?) to construct something like that for either tank size? It's basically made of plywood and painted

    Haha indeed! But...you are ready to start buying back...right?!? :D

    Just when I was leaning toward the 100 or 120...consensus is the 150 so far. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'd go longer it's all about length.
     
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    Hi Karen ,

    Are you going custom ? For me it's all about depth of a tank .

    Am also slowly working out budget for my next tank but it will a crazyslow 1 year builsstarting next march .

    You can look into a 60 x 36 x 18 or 48 x 36 x18

    Sure very difficult to light and if using halides you would need Hamilton comuzel or lunembrights to cover 36 inches front to back .. and difficult to make flow too . But the aquascape you can create blows everything away like deep valleys and depth in tank . I currently have a 30 inch deep tank but would definitely go for a 36 inch deep if I can .

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    I am not looking custom, I would most likely go with the SCA 150g. My current tank is an SCA and I’m more than happy with their build quality.


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    "Go as big as you can" is a constructive suggestion.

    Of the three tanks you list, if they really all are fine in terms of your space and budget, the 150 is a no brainer.

    Within the range of sizes you are considering here....

    - the extra length will be the most important thing for the fish - more swimming distance without having to turn around, and more length gives fish more ability to get farther away from each other.

    - the extra front to back depth, even just 3", gives more ability for corals to grow without having them totally fill the space (this is good not only for the corals, but for the fish too... imagine adding 3" of open space to the front of a tank pretty packed with corals - this would give fish more open space for swimming.

    - the extra height also is important, among other things allowing corals to grow taller before reaching the water surface.
     
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    Alright, my next question is IF I pursue the 150, would the 36” Reefbrite fixture do the trick? I think the solid answer is yes but I don’t know everything. :)

    I currently have the 15” fixture over my 32x24x20 tank and am happy with it.

    Or I guess I could just get a second 15” fixture and space them a bit.


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    I've thought about it lol!

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    Do it!


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    Anyone with input on the 36” vs two 15” fixtures?


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    What are you selling ;)

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    What kind of spread do the 15" fixtures have? Would you have some shady spots if the lights didn't overlap right?

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    If I make the big purchase...everything else has to go. The only one I might hold onto is the IM 25 lagoon. Unless that's one you're interested in, then I can reconsider that. :)

    Well, the current single 15" fixture is adequate for the 32" long tank it's on now. I don't think you'd end up with shady areas (like in the middle) but might end up with some lower par values in the middle. Visually I don't think it'd be noticeable though since MH have a pretty even spread of light, unlike the shadowing of LEDs. I would imagine some care/thought would have to go into the scape/coral placement to ensure your light lovers aren't in the potential lower par midline.
     

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