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  1. Mandarin_Jake

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    I have a pair of both standard (meleagris) leopard wrasses and blue star (bipartitus) leopards currently in my 29 gallon awaiting my RSM build. Sizes range from the smallest blue star being 1.25" to the largest standard leopard pushing 2.75".
    All are eating everything well and so far no signs of aggression.
    I'm wondering if two pairs is too much for a 65 gallon?

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    Have any of the fish transitioned to terminal phase males yet?
    Until that happens, you'll probably be fine. If both species have a fish fully transition, there may be some territorial issues. My best guess is one fish begins to transition first, that may keep the other three fish in their female phase; and that'll work in your favor. In a much larger tank, you may get a terminal phase male from each species.
     
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    Way too much. Do you want me to home a pair for you
     
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    This was where my head was at too. I figured the only aggression i may see would be between terminal males. I havent had the fish very long, none of them have started transitioning. I will say that there are distinct size differences between each fish within the pairs, so i would think its highly possible to see some changes start to occur. Not sure how long that type of transition takes?

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    Way too much based on what data/experience? I appreciate the offer, but im not quite there yet as far as rehoming the fish. If i end up needing to, they will be posted in the classifieds.

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    Based on him wanting to 'borrow' them ;)
     
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    That's kind of what I figured lol

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    Correct. However, I just read they burrow, so now I can’t even have you FIF. No sand for me.
     
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    Jake,

    Are you a member of my Augsburg aquarium facebook group? https://www.facebook.com/groups/213675335937395/

    I ask because I have some videos there showing how big these fish get - I have a mature male bluestar (originally was Jason's fish), along with a good sized female (and they are spawning regularly!). I'm concerned that a 65 might be sort of cramped quarters (well, borderline cramped) for a mature male.
     
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    OK, here's one of the videos:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/evhAwN6vjEjbtmmt6

    (In this video the male bluestar leopard wrasse is following around the diamond goby looking for food in the sand stirred up by the goby.)

    On that Facebook group I also have a video of them spawning.
     
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    Thanks Bill!

    At this point I think I will have to choose a pair to keep and a pair to rehome. I'm really stuck because I love the current size of the blue star pair (both >2"), but I think I like the patterns, colors, and overall appearance of the standard leopards more. Sigh.

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