Mandarin Trio

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    Interesting turn of events.
    What was my 15 gallon quarantine tank for a future build is now home to 3 Biota Captive Bred "Blue" Mandarins. I brought home the trio because sexing is so hard. Id like to get a pair out of the three, then rehome the third when the time comes.
    Long and slow acclimation as these are tiny buggers...less than 3/4" long!
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    How long do you think it will take before you can tell?

    Guessing they'll need to double in size at least
     
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    I believe one for sure is a male, as it already has a dominant primary dorsal Spike. The other two have me guessing. At first I was thinking I had a male and two females but some of their behaviors are beginning to lead me otherwise.

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    Awwwww so cute


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    Sigh. I'm wondering if I ended up with all three being males. The fish settled in quite well and seem to be relatively happy. Sadly, I am observing a lot more aggression in the tank than I would like. The one fish I suspected to be a male is actually the fish not displaying any poor behavior towards the others, but is actually doing a lot of running away. Hmph, maybe that one is a female? ...Who knows...

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    Give it some time. They are still figuring it all out. Maybe you'll get lucky with two females, one male.
     
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    Thats my hope. Do you think a trio would do okay together long term in that scenario? I know in the wild they dont pair up for life...

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    I need to pick up a pair for my tank. My pod population is out of control.

    I hope you got lucky and end up with two females!
     
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    If I was ever to get serious about breeding Mandarins, I'd try to get a male and three females together. Sometimes you'll see aggression between females, but with enough room (like a 65 breeder or thereabouts) you'd be fine. In the wild its whatever female that shows interest in the male he'll spawn with. In a tank, other than the possibility of some female aggression, I think you'd be fine.
     
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    It's pretty crazy how much they consume. The three dragonets have about emptied the 15 gallon of pods in 5 days.

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    Heard that. If I end up keeping them all, the destination tank will be a 66 gallon Redsea Max 250. The display is 60 gallons, dimensions are 38"x 21"x 26" (LxWxH).

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    How are the little guys doing? Did you get them eating prepared foods?
     
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    So far so good, thanks. I've been feeding nutramar Ova basically once a day and they have had fat stomachs since I brought them home so I think they're eating it at this point. I've steadily watched the copepod population of the tank dwindle to nothing so time will tell pretty soon.
    The sexing of the fish is driving me nuts. At this point I feel like I might have 3 males, or two whimpy males and an Uber agressive female. Sigh.

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    Im 99.9% sure i have at least two males at this point, so i will most likely be posting one in the classifides...all are doing well though. Fat little stomachs and gaining tail weight!

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    Sad update:
    I definately had three males.
    I reached out to the lfs where i picked them up and they were willing to swap two out of the three for two different fish (which i saw in person and was very confident of sex with these). I pulled the trigger on the trade as i had the remaining male lined up to be rehomed.
    It wasnt until i got them acclimated and in the tank i noticed how big the one i had was compared to the two new fish. Almost double the size. (And they were purchased at the same size less than a month before.) I immediately was anxious as ive witnessed mandarins be worse than pitbulls in fights. As tried as we might, another member and myself couldnt meet up to rehome the 3rd largest male.
    I found the new male dead earlier this week and the new female this morning. Uber disappointing. So ill be keeping the solo male, which is thriving, so thats a positive. Im thinking about picking up a spotted female to have one of each in my upcoming system, as the picturatus and splendidus are really the only dragonets I care for.

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    Lets hope this story moves towards happier updates. Keep us posted...
     
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    That's a real bummer. We know how much you enjoy these fish.
     

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