Washing rock...? (1 Viewer)

[REEFSTOCK]

Too many people basing thier decisions on what they read in a newsgroup. First off all, its my impression that most of you who advocate acid washing rock have never tried natural rock, or curing natural rock because of fear from what you have read. If this is the case and have no experience curing rock, or using natural rock you really have no basis from slamming natural rock methods and you have never tried them. 2nd to chemguy you simply cant believe everything you read, the literature that says you need a 55 GL miinimum for fisheri or argi is BS. I have kept more than 25 of each species for several months in tanks smaller than 55 gallons, several were kept in invert holding cubes (maybe 20 gallons tops) for months with other species of small fish. The point is that you cant believe everything you read (including this post) unless you have tried it yourself and have experience - otherwise it just heresay in my book. I read one time that dragon wrasses were "reef safe" but that doesnt make it so...

Who is slamming which method?
Everyone here knows both work. And we all know DSBs can look sweet too, and Turf scrubbers.... and the list goes on of functional methods.
Not everyone owns a warehouse where they can just TRY all the methods to find out what works and does not. So they pick a method they either can get help with or one that they believe has the features they are looking for.

 

[REEFSTOCK]

but when i upgrade my current system to a much larger cube

Gurgle Gurgle

 

[cubetankguy]

Gurgle Gurgle

lol u should of seen the smoke come out of rachels ears last night when i brought it up

 

[lr9788]

Just bring it home and claim it was a "great deal"

 

[Pomacanthus]

Just wondering what the value of dried, old, or otherwise dead rock is? ie what would your average MNfish hobbyist be willing to pay? is there a "going rate" ? I ask only because in the past i have discarded this type of rock due to limited storage, and resaleability. Any help appreciated.

 

[hypertech]

Retail is around $4-5. It can be bought "new" from BRS for about $2.50. It tends to sell around here for $1.50-2 depending on the shape. I don't know what it would go for on minnfish. I know TCMAS is pretty cheap so perhaps you get better prices there.

 

[Chem Guy]

Too many people basing thier decisions on what they read in a newsgroup. First off all, its my impression that most of you who advocate acid washing rock have never tried natural rock, or curing natural rock because of fear from what you have read. If this is the case and have no experience curing rock, or using natural rock you really have no basis from slamming natural rock methods and you have never tried them. 2nd to chemguy you simply cant believe everything you read, the literature that says you need a 55 GL miinimum for fisheri or argi is BS. I have kept more than 25 of each species for several months in tanks smaller than 55 gallons, several were kept in invert holding cubes (maybe 20 gallons tops) for months with other species of small fish. The point is that you cant believe everything you read (including this post) unless you have tried it yourself and have experience - otherwise it just heresay in my book. I read one time that dragon wrasses were "reef safe" but that doesnt make it so...

We're basing our decisions because we don't have the time, money, or space to properly cure natural live rock harvested from the ocean. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an entire basement and all my time and money devoted to this hobby. But that's not possible for me. Also, you're the only one slamming an opinion. You're clearly saying we are uneducated and unskilled if we stoop to acid washing versus curing natural rock. I never said it was wrong, just not feasible for most of us.

Also, since you admit that I can't believe anything I read, I'm going to err on the safe side and go with the more conservative advice. I'm not going to risk putting an angel fish in my 28g cube because some guy on a forum said he keeps dozens in a 20g tube. Instead, I'll trust the advice of national retailers. I don't mean any offence by that statement, just showing that I'll trust the more documented source.

This isn't going anywhere, I was just trying to tell you that acid washing isn't "wrong", just a different method by which hobbyists can set up a new aquarium.

 

[rihanssu]

Too many people basing thier decisions on what they read in a newsgroup. First off all, its my impression that most of you who advocate acid washing rock have never tried natural rock, or curing natural rock because of fear from what you have read. If this is the case and have no experience curing rock, or using natural rock you really have no basis from slamming natural rock methods and you have never tried them. 2nd to chemguy you simply cant believe everything you read, the literature that says you need a 55 GL miinimum for fisheri or argi is BS. I have kept more than 25 of each species for several months in tanks smaller than 55 gallons, several were kept in invert holding cubes (maybe 20 gallons tops) for months with other species of small fish. The point is that you cant believe everything you read (including this post) unless you have tried it yourself and have experience - otherwise it just heresay in my book. I read one time that dragon wrasses were "reef safe" but that doesnt make it so...

two things wrong with this post #1

2nd to chemguy you simply cant believe everything you read, the literature that says you need a 55 GL miinimum for fisheri or argi is BS. I have kept more than 25 of each species for several months in tanks smaller than 55 gallons, several were kept in invert holding cubes (maybe 20 gallons tops) for months with other species of small fish.

to quote christ rock: you can drive you car with your feet if you want to, that doesn't make it a good (bleepin) Idea"

and #2 *I* and i'm sure actually alot of the people that have been on the boards for a few years have cured rock. i would venture a guess that anyone around longer then 5 years wouldn't have had much choice as dry rock hasnt be "readily" available all that long.

and #3 unless you actually think that "live" rock is actually alive. you would have to understand the notion that it is really nothing more than a pourus medium for bacterium, microfauna and beneficial live stock preside to do they're thing? and since ultimately the rock is only a "house" per se, then you can add the things you really want later without having to factor out the things that you do not want? killing feather caulupra once that bastard is in your tank is nearly immpossible. i know it can be done but i would rather cut off two of my toes (the ones i dont use much) rather than deal with that.