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Is that second photo correct. 1/13 of a second? That fish must have been frozen in place to see all the detail on his eye and scales. I brought my camera to work today so I'm going to try and replicate some of these. I know I don't have a full frame camera or a macro lens but I'll try my best.
 
eschulist said:
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Is that second photo correct. 1/13 of a second? That fish must have been frozen in place to see all the detail on his eye and scales. I brought my camera to work today so I'm going to try and replicate some of these. I know I don't have a full frame camera or a macro lens but I'll try my best.
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That's correct, normally you can't get away with that sort of thing with fish but she was perched and not moving much. I look forward to seeing what you get-
 
Chris -

What is the trick to getting Anthias to eat pellet food? I have two new Lyretails currently in their quarantine tank and they've only wanted to eat frozen mysis. The other fish in my display tank eat New Life Spectrum pellets and I want to get these two guys on it before introduced to their new tank. I've mixed the pellets in with the frozen mysis (hoping it would take on some of the tastes) but it hasn't worked. The Anthias' spit the pellets right out.

Thanks!
 
shawnriv said:
Chris -

What is the trick to getting Anthias to eat pellet food? I have two new Lyretails currently in their quarantine tank and they've only wanted to eat frozen mysis. The other fish in my display tank eat New Life Spectrum pellets and I want to get these two guys on it before introduced to their new tank. I've mixed the pellets in with the frozen mysis (hoping it would take on some of the tastes) but it hasn't worked. The Anthias' spit the pellets right out.

Thanks!
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What size are your pellets? I have had the best luck with the 0.5mm size for anthias. Taking pellets is usually a pretty late milestone in the process, so if you haven't been trying that long I wouldn't worry be too concerned- especially with that species. A lot of people suggest mixing, but I haven't had much luck with it; they just take the food they're comfortable with and then by the time the preferred food is gone they're not as hungry and couldn't care less about the alternative. They're very particular about what they eat and I've never had any luck "tricking" them.

If you're comfortable with their weight, I would offer pellets and only pellets for a feeding. Make sure there's enough flow and lack of obstructions so that they get multiple opportunities to try them out. If they don't take them, just gradually start feeding pellets more and more. Creating a little temporary hunger can work wonders. Generally, once you get one excited about pellets it's contagious and other anthias join the fun within a few days. If you have bigger pellets you can grind them up a little bit which supplies some variation in size (sometimes that's the issue) and also distributes the scent a little better in the water column.
 
ChristopherKriens said:
What size are your pellets? I have had the best luck with the 0.5mm size for anthias. Taking pellets is usually a pretty late milestone in the process, so if you haven't been trying that long I wouldn't worry be too concerned- especially with that species. A lot of people suggest mixing, but I haven't had much luck with it; they just take the food they're comfortable with and then by the time the preferred food is gone they're not as hungry and couldn't care less about the alternative. They're very particular about what they eat and I've never had any luck "tricking" them.

If you're comfortable with their weight, I would offer pellets and only pellets for a feeding. Make sure there's enough flow and lack of obstructions so that they get multiple opportunities to try them out. If they don't take them, just gradually start feeding pellets more and more. Creating a little temporary hunger can work wonders. Generally, once you get one excited about pellets it's contagious and other anthias join the fun within a few days. If you have bigger pellets you can grind them up a little bit which supplies some variation in size (sometimes that's the issue) and also distributes the scent a little better in the water column.
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The pellets I have are unfortunately 1mm. What kind of pellets do you have that are .5mm? Do you think I should only transfer the Anthias from quarantine once they are on the pellets? I just fear them to starve in my display tank since my two Percula Clowns and Royal Gramma are aggressive eaters. And how long would you consider a "temporary hunger?"
 
I'll add another opinion as I have a group of five Lyretail Anthias.

My females will eat pellets when I feed pellets; which is hardly ever. The male will pick at them but immediately spit them out.
I feed my fish frozen foods (LRS Frenzy blends) and the anthias go crazy; they're the aggressive ones.
I only feed when I am home which works out to about a four hour window during the week. With the lyretails being a larger anthias species, they do just fine without being feed every couple of hours. So if you need to feed frozen foods, you shouldn't need to worry if they're getting fed while you're gone. In fact, I'll be gone for weekends and not feed the tank and they all do just fine.

Good luck with the pellets!
 
shawnriv said:
The pellets I have are unfortunately 1mm. What kind of pellets do you have that are .5mm? Do you think I should only transfer the Anthias from quarantine once they are on the pellets? I just fear them to starve in my display tank since my two Percula Clowns and Royal Gramma are aggressive eaters. And how long would you consider a "temporary hunger?"
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I use Sustainable Aquatics, but New Life has a 0.5mm pellet as well. I myself wouldn't hold them in quarantine for that reason alone, but more time rarely hurts. If they don't eat after a couple of days then I wouldn't push it any further especially if they're small.
 
Glad to see the leopard is doing well love those fish. What anthias is that? Almost looks like a cross between a Sunburst and Resplendent.
 
coralreefer said:
Glad to see the leopard is doing well love those fish. What anthias is that? Almost looks like a cross between a Sunburst and Resplendent.
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The leopard wrasse has always done really well. I've been trying to get some sand diving photos but nothing has turned out yet.

That's a female Bimaculatus Anthias. They do have some similar markings to the Sunburst. She is posturing against the glass because there is a mirror on the other side. I'm experimenting with trying to coax out a gender change by putting up a tank-wide mirror for a couple of hours every day to simulate an environment with more females and potential competition. I doubt visual cues are enough to do the trick, but it would be cool to see any phenotypic response.
 
Have you compared your recent photos of your leopard wrasse to the early ones?
Is there any indentifiable markings that suggest the wrasse has transitioned at all towards being a male?

I ask because you've had your leopard about as long as I've had mine and yours still appears to have stayed female; while mine has been in transition for a long time.
I'm wondering if the transition is dependent on each species of leopard wrasse or the environment. Both of our tanks lack other wrasses, but are dominated by anthias.

I keep seeing the trios of bimacs showing up on DD, and I want to swap out my lyretails for them.

And "Thanks!" for more photos.
 
jlanger said:
Have you compared your recent photos of your leopard wrasse to the early ones?
Is there any indentifiable markings that suggest the wrasse has transitioned at all towards being a male? ...
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There's a little bit of color change on the forehead from certain angles and more reds and yellows in all of the fins, but no definite male characteristics. I think this is just color shifting with maturity. I'm glad she hasn't changed because while there are more rare and expensive leopard wrasses, the female meleagris is still my favorite. Some of the time she's spent in the system has been with my male Rhomboid, but I don't know if the presence of Cirrhilabrus would prevent (or cause) a change. Wasn't there another male or female in your system at one time?

The oldest photo I have is the original photo taken at Diver's Den about 2¼ years ago.
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I 2nd what Jason said about the photos. killer as usual. I really need to pickup a macro and dust off the camera.

I'm picking up some purple queens later today and was wondering if you're able to give me some tips on what not to do.

tia
 
ChristopherKriens said:
Some of the time she's spent in the system has been with my male Rhomboid, but I don't know if the presence of Cirrhilabrus would prevent (or cause) a change. Wasn't there another male or female in your system at one time?
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Oh yeah, I forgot about your Rhomboid; proof that you need to post more pics.

My leopard was part of a pair of females when initially added, but the second one didn't last very long. The Lamarck's Angelfish was being aggressive towards the wrasses and the one perished from starvation in a short time period. So the remaining female was basically alone the entire time.
I'm usually a fan of the female coloration in most fishes, but I really like the transitional color phase that my wrasse is in now. It has the bold and dark colors of the male, but still retains the spotted body pattern of the females. I feel if the spots expand into the stripes, I won't like the coloration as much.
 
souk said:
I 2nd what Jason said about the photos. killer as usual. I really need to pickup a macro and dust off the camera.

I'm picking up some purple queens later today and was wondering if you're able to give me some tips on what not to do.

tia
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I've never tried going straight to the display, but I think Purple Queens benefit a lot from an acclimation period. They can be difficult to get eating and are also kind of a nervous fish at first, so I think it would be challenging to get them to eat well outside of a more controlled environment. The bigger the specimens the better. Just start with tiny foods and work your way up.


jlanger said:
Oh yeah, I forgot about your Rhomboid; proof that you need to post more pics...
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The reason is that he's by far the hardest fish I have to photograph. Will eat out of my hand and flash in front of me, but has a bad case of camera phobia.






Another fish I haven't posted a photo of recently. The pelvic and anal fin will turn from white to a charcoal color at night and when he gets worked up for no reason.
 
That is an awesome picture!@
I need to hire private photo lessons from you, or hire you to take pics and make my fish look that good!
 
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