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yeah, I just googled him and realized that I know him. I have a terrible memory for names. It's usually worst for authors, so I guess that makes sense that I'd forget him. Also, I never really got into astrophysics all that much. or should I say... yet...
 
I heard a pretty good one last week. Some global warming advocate was going on about how last year was a RECORD year for hurricaines and it's caused by global warming. Well guess what little detail he was hiding and was, in my view, being very dishonest with? Last years record he claimed due to global warming was for the fewest hurricaines! He tried to make it sound like it was the other way around. :nuts:
 
wolmutt said:
carl sagan is the scientist who made science cool. he could possibly be the fuel of cultural change that in turn created your interest in science. wes, wes, wes.....ok, the movie Contact with Jodie Foster????? carl sagan wrote the book. He wrote many books that talk about exactly what is happening in this forum. He is a personal hero of mine, and soon to be yours I'm sure.
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Uhh Carl Sagan died over 10 years ago. Yes I used to watch Cosmos all the time.
 
It's really funny how there is way more money to be lost to big companies than for any others to gain. This is exactly what we saw with big chemical companies when it was found that certain chemicals were causing the softening of predator bird eggs (top of the food chain as are we....chemicals move up the food chain to top thus concentrating in those species). When the book silent spring was written the big chemical companies did everything they cool to attack the character of the writer, a woman, ewwww. They basically tried to create the scarecrow fallacy with her, and when that didn't work they hired scientists to defute her results. Part of the purpose was to create mass confusion in the public who is grossly undereducated in the scientific process and buy time for the sake of money. They didn't give a poop about the fact that DDT was going to kill all of us just as is happening with those whose interests go against the reality of climate change. It's always about big money. The BIG money is not on the side of those stating climate change is true. It's really easy just follow the money.
 
wes said:
yeah, I just googled him and realized that I know him. I have a terrible memory for names. It's usually worst for authors, so I guess that makes sense that I'd forget him. Also, I never really got into astrophysics all that much. or should I say... yet...
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Wes, a lot of his books are about the empirical process and its place within society. Check him out...seeing him as just an astrophysicist severely limits what he was and what he wrote.

demon haunted world....very cool.
 
wolmutt said:
Wes, a lot of his books are about the empirical process and its place within society. Check him out...seeing him as just an astrophysicist severely limits what he was and what he wrote.

demon haunted world....very cool.
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I was just saying that's likely why I haven't got him stuck in my head.

Spinning facts does no good for anybody. That hurricane anecdote, if true, really demonstrates the dangers of making/interpreting statements without a full understanding of the subject. No one I would trust would make grandiose statements about a particular season. It's all about trends and long term understanding.
 
Sagan has some really good lectures online. They are definitely worth watching even if its not really your "thing".
I find it interesting that some people here repeatedly have studies/scientists to back up what they are saying and others dont.
Is a thread on religion going to be started soon?
 
brendondreher said:
Sagan has some really good lectures online. They are definitely worth watching even if its not really your "thing".
I find it interesting that some people here repeatedly have studies/scientists to back up what they are saying and others dont.
Is a thread on religion going to be started soon?
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oh gawd, I hope not. I'll just excuse myself now--I once got punched by a young earth chrisitan during what I considered a conversation and he decided was blasphemy.
 
ah, we were drunk. I think he hit me for asking him why he was so vehement about defending that part of the bible while completely disregarding other biblical directives.
 
part 12 is hilarious! I laughed so hard puppy chow came out my nose. I'm amazed I didn't wake my wife up.
 
part 17 sums up my frustrations with pseudo-science rather well. I have to warn it may be blatantly offensive.
 
i started the other tread so im staying out of this one for good......wes have fun and to every one its a myth get over it lol
 
I am always fascinated by reading these threads...

There's cold water bleaching corals in the Caribbean because global warming caused the polar ice caps to melt, which subsequently led to a cool current of water heading south which bleached the corals.

Using the argument in the previous sentence is about as asinine as using the argument that global warming does or doesn't exist because corals bleached due to some cold water or that it's 40 and raining on Mille Lacs.
 
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Using the argument in the previous sentence is about as asinine as using the argument that global warming does or doesn't exist because corals bleached due to some cold water or that it's 40 and raining on Mille Lacs.
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sounds like you might light part 17 of that series...
 
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