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I agree. I just sped up the inevitable. Good news is no other fish have skipped a beat with the addition of the prazi.
Back to the drawing board on my leopard collection. Always has to happen to the difficult ones.
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That's utterly disappointing to hear about the Potter's.
I would also inspect the body for flukes, just to make sure. It would be tragic if there was no need to medicate the tank and you stress the rest of the fish and cause more issues.
I would also inspect the body for flukes, just to make sure. It would be tragic if there was no need to medicate the tank and you stress the rest of the fish and cause more issues.
ugh! so sorry.
Prazi dissipates after 24 hours and I would do a water change as well if you choose not to do the second dose. Any others scratching or yawning?
Yeah the tamarins pick at the frozen stuff and spit it out some. They have to eat a few times during the day but are pretty hardy once you get them on frozen and pellets. Let us know how it goes.
Prazi dissipates after 24 hours and I would do a water change as well if you choose not to do the second dose. Any others scratching or yawning?
Yeah the tamarins pick at the frozen stuff and spit it out some. They have to eat a few times during the day but are pretty hardy once you get them on frozen and pellets. Let us know how it goes.
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No one else seems to be showing any signs of anything after the first prazi dose. I don’t think I’ll do another as 3 of the 5 I qt’d myself and they went through two rounds then. The other two have been with me for 4+ yrs without issue.
The Potter’s was from DD and wasn’t qt’d by me when I got it back in September.
The yellowtail is doing alright. So far is eating some frozen bloodworms and semi interested in other bits from LRS. I’ll keep offering other frozen as well to try to expand it’s diet.
I got some brine shrimp eggs today. It probably wouldn’t hurt to hatch some out if only to try to put some weight on the tamarin.
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The Potter’s was from DD and wasn’t qt’d by me when I got it back in September.
The yellowtail is doing alright. So far is eating some frozen bloodworms and semi interested in other bits from LRS. I’ll keep offering other frozen as well to try to expand it’s diet.
I got some brine shrimp eggs today. It probably wouldn’t hurt to hatch some out if only to try to put some weight on the tamarin.
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Almost to the two week mark with the yellowtail in QT. It’s pretty much exclusively eating frozen bloodworms. I’d say it eats the majority of 2 cubes every couple days.
It’s not fat by any means but so far I haven’t enticed it with any other foods including LRS and masstick.
I have fed some bloodworms that have been soaked in General Cure and Focus but not consistently.
I’m thinking of a round or two of prazi just as a precaution.
It appears healthy and active and comes to the end of the tank as soon as it sees me each day for the first feeding. It always eats most aggressively at the first feeding. Maybe it’s because I can only feed when I get home from work through the evening. It’s not getting anything during the day simply because I’m not home. But I try to offer a few small feedings throughout the evening.
Unsure if this will end up being a success story yet or not. I wish I could get it eating more and put some weight on it.
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It’s not fat by any means but so far I haven’t enticed it with any other foods including LRS and masstick.
I have fed some bloodworms that have been soaked in General Cure and Focus but not consistently.
I’m thinking of a round or two of prazi just as a precaution.
It appears healthy and active and comes to the end of the tank as soon as it sees me each day for the first feeding. It always eats most aggressively at the first feeding. Maybe it’s because I can only feed when I get home from work through the evening. It’s not getting anything during the day simply because I’m not home. But I try to offer a few small feedings throughout the evening.
Unsure if this will end up being a success story yet or not. I wish I could get it eating more and put some weight on it.
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It's funny you mention LA - I put an order in about two months ago of fish and they ended up wiping my tank (save the lone convict tang who made it), from the bacterial infection that wholesalers got this past summer (uromeia? I know I spelled it wrong). Something really has changed of the quality of fish from them. I think I'll pick up a business lisc. and just go back to ordering and QT'ing that way.
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Things are plugging along with the tank. I keep thinking maybe I'm ready to try some acros again, as it's been a few months since the disaster and all other corals are looking good. I do have some nuisance algae in spots, but i haven't worried too much about it since it hasn't progressed. I do seem to have a lot of debris floating aroud at any given time and seems like the rockwork is always kind of dirty despite blowing it off. I don't have filter socks or a way to implement them really. I don't know why it always seems so dirty in there, I feed pretty sparingly. I added my Tunze 6095's to the pair of 6105's, we'll see if that helps. My 7095 controller has been giving me fits, so I ordered up some cables to control at least the 6105's off my GHL Profilux.
Is it possible flow is too high through the sump, so detritus isn't settling there, or is that not a factor? My chaeto tends to get all full of detritus too so..I guess I just have a dirty tank?
Anyway, back to the acros. I really want to try some again, but I'm also half scared. But, I need to do something soon. I have nearly a FOWLR tank and keep rearranging the rockwork since it's mostly bare.
So, on with a pair of not so great cell phone pics. I have a few more fish on hold at the LFS if I can ever get there again to get them...
Current FTS:
Sneak Peek at the QT:
Is it possible flow is too high through the sump, so detritus isn't settling there, or is that not a factor? My chaeto tends to get all full of detritus too so..I guess I just have a dirty tank?
Anyway, back to the acros. I really want to try some again, but I'm also half scared. But, I need to do something soon. I have nearly a FOWLR tank and keep rearranging the rockwork since it's mostly bare.
So, on with a pair of not so great cell phone pics. I have a few more fish on hold at the LFS if I can ever get there again to get them...
Current FTS:
Sneak Peek at the QT:
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Forgot to add, cord management of those Tunzes needs some work, but I don't really know what to do with the cords from the 6095's that are lower and closer to the front of the glass.
Also, my Potter's Angel is kind of a jerk and might be punching his ticket right on out of here if he can't get along.
Also, my Potter's Angel is kind of a jerk and might be punching his ticket right on out of here if he can't get along.
Yellowtail tamarin looks great! Eating frozen?
Re flow - I have been of the mind set that most flow should come from your in tank powerheads and not the return. I have my Varios 6 on the lowest setting on my tank. All the flow is coming from my Gyres and supplement powerheads.
Re flow - I have been of the mind set that most flow should come from your in tank powerheads and not the return. I have my Varios 6 on the lowest setting on my tank. All the flow is coming from my Gyres and supplement powerheads.
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So far, the tamarin only likes frozen bloodworms. Some days it's all about them, can't get enough, other days, not as much, but eats at least a couple times every day. I have tried mixing the frozen bloodworms with some mysis and also with some LRS Reef Frenzy and it still picks out the bloodworms only and tends to be less interested if it's been mixed with mysis. I am also feeding them soaked in GC and Focus with a splash of Garlic Guard so maybe once it's off the meds it'll be more interested in other stuff. I'm pleased with it's progress so far.
I'm keeping it in sub-therapeutic copper at the moment (1.0 ppm) until I get my C. brunneus and maybe some anthias that will be added to this same QT (not the safest idea but...). Then I'll ramp copper up to therapeutic once they're all present. I hope it all goes well. The tamarin will have been in QT for 3 weeks already this coming Saturday without a full round of any medication unfortunately. I hope it doesn't mind some company. I strongly considered moving it to the display first, but since it hasn't been through any full treatments of any meds I probably shouldn't.
Flow: I have the Varios 8 and recently knocked it back to the third led, so half power. I could probably go even lower if I wanted to. The skimmer also has a DC pump so I can adjust that accordingly. I'd like to see detritus settle primarily in the sump (some already does) but I find it hard to get flow through my chaeto to keep it clean as well. So it seems a little bit of a lose lose situation on that front. I do have a powerhead in the fuge to tumble the chaeto but that only works when it's a small ball. It quickly grows too large to consider doing any tumbling. I've also been getting a fair amount of hair algae growing in the sump, which I guess is fine. I'd rather it grow there than in the display. That's what sumps are for, right?
LOL. No doubt! I have a few spot of different looking hair algae and no detectable nitrates and .01 in PO4. I just pull it off every so often.
I get the flow through the fuge. it becomes a balancing act.
Good luck with the Tamarin. A little jealous. I've had a few yellows and redtails close to that long and just wither away and die.
Just be mindful they don't do the best in copper and might get out eaten by the others if you add them.
I get the flow through the fuge. it becomes a balancing act.
Good luck with the Tamarin. A little jealous. I've had a few yellows and redtails close to that long and just wither away and die.
Just be mindful they don't do the best in copper and might get out eaten by the others if you add them.
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I've had some redtails and haven't been successful with them yet. The anthias will be Purple Queens, so I'm not too worried about them out competing, at least not at first. Assuming I can get them to eat anything... The brunneus will probably be the one to worry about.
I'm thinking of doing 14 days of therapeutic copper, then remove the copper and observe for another couple weeks rather than a full 30 days of therapeutic copper like I usually do.
I'm truly pleased with the yellowtail so far, I hope it continues. I might have helped that it spent 3+ weeks at the LFS before I was able to pick it up.
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And so it begins again. Thanks to @nox.rupaw and @OldNemo for getting me started with some sps again and letting me see and discuss their tanks yesterday!
Newest additions to the main tank:
(Not the blimp at the top of the pic)
There's actually 4 Purple Queens (all males though...eek):
Pintail is not new and not easy to photograph with just the trusty phone:
Forest Fire Digi continues to rock on:
Newest additions to the main tank:
(Not the blimp at the top of the pic)
There's actually 4 Purple Queens (all males though...eek):
Pintail is not new and not easy to photograph with just the trusty phone:
Forest Fire Digi continues to rock on:
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Alright folks, I need some input and opinions. I've currently got the Trigger Triton44 (version 1) sump. While I'm not necessarily unhappy with it, I'm also not happy with it.
Dislikes:
- the refugium grows more hair algae than chaeto
- no mechanical filtration = so much detritus
Those are my main complaints. The hair algae is smothering my chaeto and the chaeto is full of detritus. There is no way to implement filter socks to help control this in this particular design.
But! Any algae growth, as long as it's in the sump and not in the display (there's some there too, let's be honest) isn't necessarily a bad thing. All algae sucks up nutrients.
And! Detritus in the sump is where it's supposed to be, right?
So, I'm considering a sump switch to one that either could implement a refugium and mechanical filtration or one that eliminates the refugium and relies solely on....a skimmer? and something like filter socks (or rollermat?) to control nutrients.
But, I have a tamarin wrasse and hope to have a leopard wrasse or two down the line, so would these mechanical filtration options really limit the pod availability as time goes on? That's my biggest fear with that kind of system.
I'm not sure there's one clear path here, but what to do? The detritus overall and getting caught up in the chaeto is just annoying and ends up back in the tank if anything gets stirred up below.
So, if you've gotten this far, sell me what your option would be and why, please.
Dislikes:
- the refugium grows more hair algae than chaeto
- no mechanical filtration = so much detritus
Those are my main complaints. The hair algae is smothering my chaeto and the chaeto is full of detritus. There is no way to implement filter socks to help control this in this particular design.
But! Any algae growth, as long as it's in the sump and not in the display (there's some there too, let's be honest) isn't necessarily a bad thing. All algae sucks up nutrients.
And! Detritus in the sump is where it's supposed to be, right?
So, I'm considering a sump switch to one that either could implement a refugium and mechanical filtration or one that eliminates the refugium and relies solely on....a skimmer? and something like filter socks (or rollermat?) to control nutrients.
But, I have a tamarin wrasse and hope to have a leopard wrasse or two down the line, so would these mechanical filtration options really limit the pod availability as time goes on? That's my biggest fear with that kind of system.
I'm not sure there's one clear path here, but what to do? The detritus overall and getting caught up in the chaeto is just annoying and ends up back in the tank if anything gets stirred up below.
So, if you've gotten this far, sell me what your option would be and why, please.
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You might have some options available to include mechanical filtration.
Are you able to install a free-standing rack that could implement filter socks? Or is there enough space to include a filter media tray? Is there the possibility of using AquaMesh?
If you want to post a photo of the sump layout for better reference, I might have some more options.
With my experience with leopard wrasses, once they start eating prepared foods, they won't have to depend on a pod population for nutrition. I have had great results with using the LRS Frenzy Blends. My Blue Star Leopard ate it with gusto; and even would eat nori. And the little Ornate Leopard Wrasse ate LRS Fish Frenzy the first day she came out. Sure, pods would be nice but I don't think they're vital to the diet of a wrasse that is eating prepared foods.
Are you able to install a free-standing rack that could implement filter socks? Or is there enough space to include a filter media tray? Is there the possibility of using AquaMesh?
If you want to post a photo of the sump layout for better reference, I might have some more options.
With my experience with leopard wrasses, once they start eating prepared foods, they won't have to depend on a pod population for nutrition. I have had great results with using the LRS Frenzy Blends. My Blue Star Leopard ate it with gusto; and even would eat nori. And the little Ornate Leopard Wrasse ate LRS Fish Frenzy the first day she came out. Sure, pods would be nice but I don't think they're vital to the diet of a wrasse that is eating prepared foods.
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It’s basically the same as the V2 BRS sells now except where the drain area is now open to the refugium, mine is closed off with just a slot at the top and midway down for water to move into the refugium.
https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/triton44-v2-sump-trigger-systems.html
So they’ve changed the design a bit and allowed for the use of socks. Unfortunately, mine doesn’t have that.
Maybe I’m just over thinking it. I guess if all the nastiness is in the sump for the most part I shouldn’t complain, right? Maybe this is just typical discontentedness and the desire to tinker that we all have.
I didn’t really anticipate a detritus problem though when I bought the sump. And I do vacuum it out regularly but you can never get it all or get the chaeto completely clean either. (Listen to me complain.)
Bashea makes a nice looking sump that gives you the option to either use refugium or just mechanical filtration. Best of both worlds?
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https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/triton44-v2-sump-trigger-systems.html
So they’ve changed the design a bit and allowed for the use of socks. Unfortunately, mine doesn’t have that.
Maybe I’m just over thinking it. I guess if all the nastiness is in the sump for the most part I shouldn’t complain, right? Maybe this is just typical discontentedness and the desire to tinker that we all have.
I didn’t really anticipate a detritus problem though when I bought the sump. And I do vacuum it out regularly but you can never get it all or get the chaeto completely clean either. (Listen to me complain.)
Bashea makes a nice looking sump that gives you the option to either use refugium or just mechanical filtration. Best of both worlds?
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Melev's sump is full of detritus seems fine to him. Like you've stated it's better off having all that stuff collecting in the sump rather than the DT, although a skimmer may be beneficial to filtering some of that out.
Melev's sump is full of detritus seems fine to him. Like you've stated it's better off having all that stuff collecting in the sump rather than the DT, although a skimmer may be beneficial to filtering some of that out.
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I’m probably just complaining except it would be nice to have the option for filter socks every now and again. The V2 of my sump would be nice.
I do have a skimmer.
Anyone looking for a Trigger Triton44 version 1 sump?
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I do have a skimmer.
Anyone looking for a Trigger Triton44 version 1 sump?
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