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Might be time to start prewashing the filter socks in the laundry sink.
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I kinda do which is the sad(er) part.
I don't have a space for a second washer. After reading what happened and knowing that you do a prewash of some sort, you have just confirmed that I will probably never put a filter bag in the laundry. We have a one of those new high efficiency ones that doesn't use much water and I can just picture the horror of the same thing happening to me and my wife's reaction. That would be a reaction not to be messed with. Thanks Marty!
I'm not worried about washing socks, have been for some time between the two washers. Our main washer is pretty fancy and I've never had an issue there, high efficiency front loader blah blah.
This one is certainly of lesser quality but none the less I was surprised it was gunked up. There is a "filter" element for the washer which was most gunked up.
@ Jonty and what I think my current solution is: I wash 200 micron felt socks (BRS) and 5 micron socks at the same time in Oxyclean. My fix going forward is to then wash the 5 micron socks again in a short cycle with some bleach. Reasoning is two fold- 1. I Feel the bleach helps out the micron socks as they don't get as clean as I'd like and 2. cleans out/flushes the washer with this basically empty load. Basically run a rinse cycle once done with the dirty load.
I tried hydrogen peroxide, it didn't work well at all for me. I suspect there is just way too much organics for the peroxide I used (~ 1 cup almost). It would be expensive to use the amount of peroxide needed I feel.
Long term, I want to stop using socks or at least micron socks. Need a monster skimmer for that though.
This one is certainly of lesser quality but none the less I was surprised it was gunked up. There is a "filter" element for the washer which was most gunked up.
@ Jonty and what I think my current solution is: I wash 200 micron felt socks (BRS) and 5 micron socks at the same time in Oxyclean. My fix going forward is to then wash the 5 micron socks again in a short cycle with some bleach. Reasoning is two fold- 1. I Feel the bleach helps out the micron socks as they don't get as clean as I'd like and 2. cleans out/flushes the washer with this basically empty load. Basically run a rinse cycle once done with the dirty load.
I tried hydrogen peroxide, it didn't work well at all for me. I suspect there is just way too much organics for the peroxide I used (~ 1 cup almost). It would be expensive to use the amount of peroxide needed I feel.
Long term, I want to stop using socks or at least micron socks. Need a monster skimmer for that though.
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Same as Riley's http://www.tcmas.org/v4/forums/show...ish-room-build&p=613426&viewfull=1#post613426
I've been debating this for months and will likely keep debating it with myself for some time. I've looked at many others, Reef Octopus 5000/6000/7000/8000 models, big MCR skimmers (Frank gets a PM a quarter asking if his is still available), bigger MRC skimmers (used on RC now), 6' air stone skimmers (modeled after the 'theory' of skimming with dwell & contact time leading the design) along with bigger ETSS and so on. The model Riley has is the top of my list and has been for some time. It's expensive.
I struggle with the studies of simmers only get out 30% of total dissolved organics and no skimmer on the market will control no3 and po4 anyways so you left with other plastic things to deal with those items anyways. Counter all that logic with the basic salt water principal mostly universally accepted which is- get the biggest skimmer possible.
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For the record - I did not have anything to do with Marty's avatar - he is just a putz like that
As I'm scrolling down to see what the new posts were, I had a mouthful of water. When I saw the avatar, I just about spit all over the computer!
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This !!!
DIY a-thon.
Sulphur reactor, took a old calcium reactor and made it into a sulphur reactor. Near as I can tell this is 1/4th the eventual size I need. Just goofing around looking for other ways to lower nitrate. Filled up a 20l with tank water at 16ppm nitrate on 10/19. I thought these things kicked in fast but as of today nitrate is 16ppm. So yea, not sure if this thing works. Don't think I spend anything but the media making it.
Recirculating biopellet reactor, last BRS garage sale I picked up this Vertax media reactor. Stupid thing didn't come with the unions which I think are metric. I never got anything threaded on but by chance somehow 1" unions work. Fast forward, add a mag 5 and a hole in the bottom (first time working with uni seals, those things really do work) and a few other parts and my total out of pocket expense is $20.00 maybe. Plan is to run AIO biopellets. Dimensions are 4"x20" with a volume of ~1000 cubic inches or near as I can caculate enough for 1.5-2 liters of biopellets. Got 3 liters on order with the 11% off sale today. With the mag 5 should be enough flow to tumble the mess.
Sulphur reactor, took a old calcium reactor and made it into a sulphur reactor. Near as I can tell this is 1/4th the eventual size I need. Just goofing around looking for other ways to lower nitrate. Filled up a 20l with tank water at 16ppm nitrate on 10/19. I thought these things kicked in fast but as of today nitrate is 16ppm. So yea, not sure if this thing works. Don't think I spend anything but the media making it.
Recirculating biopellet reactor, last BRS garage sale I picked up this Vertax media reactor. Stupid thing didn't come with the unions which I think are metric. I never got anything threaded on but by chance somehow 1" unions work. Fast forward, add a mag 5 and a hole in the bottom (first time working with uni seals, those things really do work) and a few other parts and my total out of pocket expense is $20.00 maybe. Plan is to run AIO biopellets. Dimensions are 4"x20" with a volume of ~1000 cubic inches or near as I can caculate enough for 1.5-2 liters of biopellets. Got 3 liters on order with the 11% off sale today. With the mag 5 should be enough flow to tumble the mess.
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Hardware: had a Jebao DC 12000 reduce flow a bunch on me. Cleaned it up, no change. Had another in my salt water mixing station which I snapped off the treads on the input so I switched blocks and back in business. Guess these pumps really do suck. Have a few Jebao power heads still going strong, who knows- get what you pay for more than likely,
Livestock: still have the ritteri anemone in qt, doing better and better 30 days into things. No more real deflation put mouth still sticks out some, certainly not tight. Hopefully this one makes it into my dt.
This whole po4/no3 game is getting annoying.
Livestock: still have the ritteri anemone in qt, doing better and better 30 days into things. No more real deflation put mouth still sticks out some, certainly not tight. Hopefully this one makes it into my dt.
This whole po4/no3 game is getting annoying.
The suplur reactor, where is the only see the sulphur. Don't you need surface area for the bacteria to grab onto don't you ? Examples I've seen use just calcium reactor media but perhaps cermamic bio material would work even better. Do you have it in a loop or just a single pass ? Don't they run just like a ca reactor in a loop.
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Suplur- I've read both ways, it's nice to have a carbonate media on the output for both surface area and to up the pH a bit. Not a requirement as the bacteria can just grow on the media itself from my limited understanding. I guess I'll go throw a Brs reacotor full of ARM on the output.
I suspect the core problem if the pump doesn't have the nuts to pull water through the media. I guess...
Reactor is a loop.
I suspect the core problem if the pump doesn't have the nuts to pull water through the media. I guess...
Reactor is a loop.
With sulfur, the carbonate is sometimes put in same the chamber for ph buffering, but more often in a second chamber. This is done because the autotrophic denitrification process lowers the ph inside the reactor, not because the bacteria need it. Since the effluent output on these reactors is relatively low, I'm not convinced that the carbonate is absolutely necessary since the system should be able to recover. These reactors are usually recirculating.
My guess is that you had too much flow out of the reactor too soon by the way your picture looks. It should really be at a drip and you start testing from there. The easiest way to run a sulfur reactor is with an orp meter plumbed into it. After you have your tank water circulate through it for 24 hours, you cut the flow to it until the orp drops below -100mv, and then you start the drip again while keeping the orp in the -100 to -300mv range.
My guess is that you had too much flow out of the reactor too soon by the way your picture looks. It should really be at a drip and you start testing from there. The easiest way to run a sulfur reactor is with an orp meter plumbed into it. After you have your tank water circulate through it for 24 hours, you cut the flow to it until the orp drops below -100mv, and then you start the drip again while keeping the orp in the -100 to -300mv range.
I tried a fast drip (~ 3-5 drips a second), a slow drip (1 drip/second) and then various increased flows all with ~ 5-7 days of running in each configuration. I thought these things kicked in fast but somehow I'm certainly not doing something right.