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I hope this addresses some of the issues with the site. I still am getting login errors, showing me offline when I'm clearly online. I also feel strongly that the UI for this site could be enhanced significantly Far too much dead/white space.
 
bigdubb said:
I hope this addresses some of the issues with the site. I still am getting login errors, showing me offline when I'm clearly online. I also feel strongly that the UI for this site could be enhanced significantly Far too much dead/white space.
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My - what a lovely welcome message!!!
 
If he's in IT he should be used to this kind of stuff. That's how it goes.
 
bigdubb said:
I hope this addresses some of the issues with the site. I still am getting login errors, showing me offline when I'm clearly online. I also feel strongly that the UI for this site could be enhanced significantly Far too much dead/white space.
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I think there is a way to change it blue if you don't like white?


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bigdubb said:
If he's in IT he should be used to this kind of stuff. That's how it goes.
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I also work in IT, and I agree that is not simply "how it goes"

our Admin (now Admins) have done a wonderful job with the site, it went through a major over haul about 2 years ago and he spends hours of his free time working on the site when he can. Not just error reports, but data changes (admittedly many from me) but also BOD requests for format changes, updating software, adding security features, adding checkout and supporter setups and constant sponsor upgrades and changes.... dude seriously, i dont know why anyone would want to do what TCMAS volunteers do for free.

Thanks Admins!
 
I would like to thank all the bod's and admins for their time away from other projects and family. As said before this is done for free... think about it, how much free time do we all have. I am on the web more than most because of my job. Like most, the last thing I want to do is look at the web when I finish work but because of job that is what I have to do being on call 24-7. So I say give a big hand out to the admins on this team. This site is up over 95% of the time I check in. So thank you all for the hard work and your time.

~david
 
I don't want to be critical here, but honestly, this site has a TON of UX issues, in addition to programmatic issues with the site. I realize that this of no fault to whomever initiated the site, nor is the fault of the new person in charge of the site.

I too have been in the IT industry for some time, (over 15 years). And, yes this is how it works, no matter what you do. You build a product, ship, and people point out what's wrong with the implementation/usability etc. If you other two cats are guys that release bug free code with perfect UX/APIs, then you my friends are by far the exception. Bugs happen, its the result of building software. To assume the site is awesome in its current state is silly. If you've been in the IT industry it must be readily apparent that the use of white space I WAY over used on this site. The filtering, market place are to be desired in their functionality, the fact you need to click 4 times to simply see where you've been quoted (mouse over notifications, then click on popup, then click on the respective email, The email only tells you that you've been quoted, and nothing about their response. The click on the post hyperlink and if you're lucky you are taken to the reply that was quoted) Does this feel like a good UX to you?

I also fail to see how pointing out some of the issues was seen so negatively. I thought it was a positive manner "I hope this will address some of the issues with the site" is a positive message. Alluding to optimism and some notion of change.

Just sayin. I wasn't being critical. But, honestly, guys, the site has issues. Its the side affect of working in a framework and wanting to do things outside the original intention of the framework. It happens all the time. e.g. people changing from blogger to wordpress to drupal.
 
Perhaps rather than pointing them out you offer up a solution to help fix them

or since you know so much about IT and how "flawless"websites work you could post about it in the proper forum not in a place we were using to welcome someone who is graciously giving their time to help fix some of the things he noticed were wrong instead of just bitching about them


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bigdubb said:
I don't want to be critical here, but honestly, this site has a TON of UX issues, in addition to programmatic issues with the site. I realize that this of no fault to whomever initiated the site, nor is the fault of the new person in charge of the site.

I too have been in the IT industry for some time, (over 15 years). And, yes this is how it works, no matter what you do. You build a product, ship, and people point out what's wrong with the implementation/usability etc. If you other two cats are guys that release bug free code with perfect UX/APIs, then you my friends are by far the exception. Bugs happen, its the result of building software. To assume the site is awesome in its current state is silly. If you've been in the IT industry it must be readily apparent that the use of white space I WAY over used on this site. The filtering, market place are to be desired in their functionality, the fact you need to click 4 times to simply see where you've been quoted (mouse over notifications, then click on popup, then click on the respective email, The email only tells you that you've been quoted, and nothing about their response. The click on the post hyperlink and if you're lucky you are taken to the reply that was quoted) Does this feel like a good UX to you?

I also fail to see how pointing out some of the issues was seen so negatively. I thought it was a positive manner "I hope this will address some of the issues with the site" is a positive message. Alluding to optimism and some notion of change.

Just sayin. I wasn't being critical. But, honestly, guys, the site has issues. Its the side affect of working in a framework and wanting to do things outside the original intention of the framework. It happens all the time. e.g. people changing from blogger to wordpress to drupal.
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No this isn't how it works. Where do you work??? Seriously.
 
tthorn125 said:
No this isn't how it works. Where do you work??? Seriously.
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I have worked for top 500 companies as well as smaller start ups. The company I work for currently generates somewhere in the nature of $1bn annually. I run the development shop of 10 guys currently supporting 12 pieces of custom written software, spaning technologies from ASP.Net, Delphi, and several RIA client site architectures (Knockout, Angular, Kendo MVVM) to support business ops within the organization. We do a very iterative development lifecyle and release sometimes weekly (dependent on the features to be released and business needs) with some of our software. We follow a lot of the development and delivery paradigms that are used by other small companies like FB, Google, Netflix, Atlassian to name a few.

So, yes this is how it works, and I know what I'm talking about.
 
Bschowa said:
Perhaps rather than pointing them out you offer up a solution to help fix them

or since you know so much about IT and how "flawless"websites work you could post about it in the proper forum not in a place we were using to welcome someone who is graciously giving their time to help fix some of the things he noticed were wrong instead of just bitching about them
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Well, you missed the point if you think I deliver flawless software. I explicitly stated that software is buggy and flawed by nature.

To your other point, I have offered up some suggestions, ideas etc. and never heard back. So...
 
bigdubb said:
I have worked for top 500 companies as well as smaller start ups. The company I work for currently generates somewhere in the nature of $1bn annually. I run the development shop of 10 guys currently supporting 12 pieces of custom written software, spaning technologies from ASP.Net, Delphi, and several RIA client site architectures (Knockout, Angular, Kendo MVVM) to support business ops within the organization. We do a very iterative development lifecyle and release sometimes weekly (dependent on the features to be released and business needs) with some of our software. We follow a lot of the development and delivery paradigms that are used by other small companies like FB, Google, Netflix, Atlassian to name a few.

So, yes this is how it works, and I know what I'm talking about.
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Try again.
 
I would suggest to start a new thread in the Site Feedback forum.
Things can be discussed and explained much better as in a Welcome thread.
 
The reason your posts are being reacted to negatively is because you were rude - plain and simple


bigdubb said:
I also fail to see how pointing out some of the issues was seen so negatively. I thought it was a positive manner "I hope this will address some of the issues with the site" is a positive message. Alluding to optimism and some notion of change.
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Bschowa said:
you could post about it in the proper forum not in a place we were using to welcome someone who is graciously giving their time to help fix some of the things he noticed were wrong
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There is your answer

It has been pointed out numerous times - your complaints do not belong in a welcome to the team thread that is thanking someone for volunteering to help us out.

It was rude and after being called out on it - you stated "that's how it goes" which just made it worse.

I also work in IT - and have for almost 20 years now. That is NOT how it goes - at least not any any place of business I have worked at or with and CERTAINLY not here.

Complaints about the site do not belong here and I let you know that early on.



Please do post your issues, comments and suggestions in the site feedback forum - we appreciate them.
 
bigdubb said:
Just sayin. I wasn't being critical.
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Yes you were.

You are missing the point, or at least my point. It is NOT how it goes when the work and software provided is free/donated/volunteer work. If your not satisfied with how things are then volunteer your own time to fix, or realize that no matter how many admins we have on the site there will always be something that needs attention because they are not working on it every day... some times it doesnt get worked on every week either... sometimes the club needs the site to do something, but we cant afford software as a non profit so the site admin does what they can to make things work on our budget, sometimes its flawless sometimes it causes quirks... and we need to live with them or not have the features that we wanted to try out.
We had hosting issues and it took some time to address them, then when we switched there was compatibility issues... these took even more time... there have been tons of behind the scenes things going on and to be frank its because of our site admin that this site is even functional at all... he had to redo almost everything a little over a years ago and this was why it was down periodically over the course of a couple months back then.

You say "I hope this fixes the sites issues".... but I say "I hope this gives Michael a bit of a break and more time for himself, and I hope the site remains as dependable as it has been for the past 2-3 years Michael has been working on it. (Dependable as in... I never sit down and think... i hope the TCMAS is up and running today)

If you think the site has issues and you would like to help address them, TCMAS always needs more active volunteers.
 
HA - just wanted to point out - that was not a calculated wave from those of us on the BOD, MOD's, admin's - we all just happened to post 1,2,3 here
 
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