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After a couple of days ya. Looks real red too
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I asked, because that is my tank, when it was infested with Dino's, not Red Slime.
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agreed not slime... dinos
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It's too flat to be dyanos though... I thought dyno was really stringy and snotty? Mines real brown /red and mats the sand. Oxygen bubbles form after a few days. And it this stuff starts to grow on glass where sand is piled a bit.
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Red slime remover worked great for me, i would just recommend dosing a couple times even after the problem has been removed in order to further neutralize any bacteria that is not seen with the eye.
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Update 2.its been 24 hours now. Can see cyano starting to form on sand again. Added uv sterilizer. Will be doing 20% water change tommorow and second dosing of slime remover. Hoping with uv sterilizer it will knock out remaining bacteria.
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those of you that posted that it might be Dynos. does it still look like dynos or cyano? this is what it looks like and after 3-4 days looks like the previous pic I posted.
Looks more brown than red to me.
Can you suck it up in a mat with a turkey baster?
When you touch it, does it stay in a mat or does it look like smoke?
When you do the water change and disturb it, does it look like brown smoke in your tank?
My Dino's were brown, I too thought (hoped) it was Cyano, it wasn't. When ever I touched it in an attempt to remove, it wouldn't stay in a mat, it disintegrated and turned into what appeared as brown smoke in the tank. It too had air bubbles in it.
How are your snails? Lethargic? Dying, dead? Dino's can kill off a CuC.
Can you suck it up in a mat with a turkey baster?
When you touch it, does it stay in a mat or does it look like smoke?
When you do the water change and disturb it, does it look like brown smoke in your tank?
My Dino's were brown, I too thought (hoped) it was Cyano, it wasn't. When ever I touched it in an attempt to remove, it wouldn't stay in a mat, it disintegrated and turned into what appeared as brown smoke in the tank. It too had air bubbles in it.
How are your snails? Lethargic? Dying, dead? Dino's can kill off a CuC.
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It starts off real fine like it does in the picture and within a few days it will start to mat. Another day or so and oxygen starts to form in the mat. I can scoop it out in sheets or big pieces when it gets to that state. It does look brown right now, but will turn a dark red as it thickens. when it's brown like this it will simply dissapear for the most part if I stir the sand a bit.
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Update 3.its been nearly 48 hours. Did a 20% water change this morning. Since there was evidence of cyano last night, I did another dosing of red slime remover.
I've always noticed that my sand is crunchy ar the the top. It's always been this way. Anyone know why this may be?
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I've always noticed that my sand is crunchy ar the the top. It's always been this way. Anyone know why this may be?
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Yes, can be several different possibilites.
1. Precipitation. Higher alk levels can lead to it. Too much or too fast kalkwasser addition. Manually dosing 2 parts where your dumping in 50+ml at once. All these types of things can contribute. So automating your CA/ALK supplements to dose very small amounts over a long period of time will reduce but likely never 100% solve.
2. Bacteria colonization. So if your a carbon doser where you increase bacteria can lead to this. Anytime I come across the clod I'll try fist to crumble it. If breaks apart which relative ease thats what I do and can usually tell when its more of a bacteria type of binding.
So in the end, some level of this is unavoidable. I personally siphon my substrate very regularly which reduces. If it's harder I just remove the clod most times just throwing away or use it go mount zoanthids or something to if big enough chunk. You can throw it in some vinegar and break it up if you really wanted to conserve/reuse.
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I bet it's a combination of the cyano /dyno bacteria and I do two part dose. I should look into a doser. Just not in my cards right now with my wedding coming up. I do siphon every week. But it forms a crunchy top layer by the next wc. This has just been one big nightmare from day 1 of my cycle. Ha! Starting yo wonder of I bought tainted sand? This stuff looks like not starts growing up through my sand. And never forms on rock
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If the hard areas is also where the dyno/cyano ( or whatever ) grows. It's difficult to know if its feeding off what is clumping or the cause of the clumping. Chicken or the egg type scenerio.
Even if manually dosing, spliting into as many smaller doses as your schedule allows can help. Alkalinity is the most important one to dose slowly so if can only automate one ( via a doser ) that's where to start. Calcium Chloride dumping in larger quantities is less of an issue and doing all at once every day or even every couple of days is fine.
Even if manually dosing, spliting into as many smaller doses as your schedule allows can help. Alkalinity is the most important one to dose slowly so if can only automate one ( via a doser ) that's where to start. Calcium Chloride dumping in larger quantities is less of an issue and doing all at once every day or even every couple of days is fine.
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Not sure either. If I remember correctly I didn't start dosing until august. and the tank was set up since last march/april. I'm certain that it was crunchy then. Then again, there's always been this nuisance cyano/dyno in my substrate. covers the whole sand bed in a week.... 
I'm guessing it's probably closer to the bacterial issue. what a nightmare! No wonder when I read about dyno, people end up taking down the entire display and starting over....
I'm guessing it's probably closer to the bacterial issue. what a nightmare! No wonder when I read about dyno, people end up taking down the entire display and starting over....
Doesn't look like you have much substrate. If you don't have any specific livestock reasons to keep it, Remove some every week then see what happen barebottom for a while. If still accumulates you then have eliminated the silicate possibility especially since thank is getting upgraded soon anyways.
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I don't. I debated it, but I do have a 3-4 stars and a Mandarin. Both would starve I would imagine if I took out the sand.
If this happens in my 180 I am going to cry!
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Start reading here.
http://www.tcmas.org/v4/forums/showthread.php?47596-Deep-Sea-Aquatics-70/page5
Worked for me very well.
http://www.tcmas.org/v4/forums/showthread.php?47596-Deep-Sea-Aquatics-70/page5
Worked for me very well.
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I think I may just need to order algae x.
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Just got done reading a bit that if you siphon out your sand every week, your essentially releasing nutrients and fueling "mini cycles" which will fuel this algae... This sound right by the pics I've posted? Only thing I'm worried about is if I don't siphon sand this algae grows like crazy! would doing 20-30% water changes start to starve it out without actualy siphoning it?