Matt,
here is a link to a place that sells it.
Actually a buddy from me works across the street from that store. I am going to ask him to go in there during his lunch break tomorrow and ask for some prices.
LINK
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Matt,
here is a link to a place that sells it.
Actually a buddy from me works across the street from that store. I am going to ask him to go in there during his lunch break tomorrow and ask for some prices.
LINK
I have learned while many things are lost in translation, more is gained in translation.
United noodle is across the street. Pick me up some black bean hot sauce... the one with the angry Chinese woman on the package... ;p NM PM me I will have Rain send our whole shopping list :gay1:
Are those the ingredients for your fish food which is actually the topic here or are are you just think for your belly again??
i have not made my own fish food yet. when i do, i plan to just use a grater on some frozen marine fish, clams, oysters, shrimp, and even crab meat. i dont know how it'll turn out yet, but hopefully i will end up with bite sized peices of flesh.
here is the style of grater that i'd use. my parents have a few of the older styled ones.
http://www.dinosaurdeals.com.au/images/details_large/avanti_rotary_cheese_grater.jpg
right now i feed my fish steroids. well, Otohime C1, spectrum Grow, and ORA GLOW. i also feed every frozen food that i can get my hands on. the standard brine shrimp, mysis shrimp, bloodworms... tried beefheart but clowns didnt like it. i also feed PE mysis, OVA prawn eggs, lots of cyclopeeze (frozen and freeze dried), and more that i cant recall off the top of my head.
i also feed live baby brine shrimp often, as well as adult brine shrimp when i raise them. on rare occasions i'll start up a copepod culture, wait for it to bloom and run the whole culture through a screen to remove all the copepods. then i dump them all into the tank and the fish try to eat as many as they can before they reach the bottom.
if someone claimed that growth hormones were good for fish, i'd probably feed that to my fish too...
here is the style of grater that i'd use. my parents have a few of the older styled ones.
http://www.dinosaurdeals.com.au/images/details_large/avanti_rotary_cheese_grater.jpg
right now i feed my fish steroids. well, Otohime C1, spectrum Grow, and ORA GLOW. i also feed every frozen food that i can get my hands on. the standard brine shrimp, mysis shrimp, bloodworms... tried beefheart but clowns didnt like it. i also feed PE mysis, OVA prawn eggs, lots of cyclopeeze (frozen and freeze dried), and more that i cant recall off the top of my head.
i also feed live baby brine shrimp often, as well as adult brine shrimp when i raise them. on rare occasions i'll start up a copepod culture, wait for it to bloom and run the whole culture through a screen to remove all the copepods. then i dump them all into the tank and the fish try to eat as many as they can before they reach the bottom.
if someone claimed that growth hormones were good for fish, i'd probably feed that to my fish too...
:stupid: yes, i should also note that i do have an algae problem from all the food my fish eat.
Just a little note on the crab meat you were thinking of using.....Attempt to use real, raw crab meat if at all possible. It's tough to find raw crab meat, at least down by me. Also, the imitation crab meat isn't all that bad either, but it's always cooked grrrrr. Imitation crab meat is actually made from Pollock puree. The bad part is that they add dyes and coloring to make it look more like crab. They key for your food is definetely RAW!!!!!
Masago is also tough to find near me, but generally speaking a good asian market will have it. Call before you go so you don't end up like me and drive all around town with my wife becoming increasingly frustrated that I can't find "those damn fish eggs" :lol:
Masago is also tough to find near me, but generally speaking a good asian market will have it. Call before you go so you don't end up like me and drive all around town with my wife becoming increasingly frustrated that I can't find "those damn fish eggs" :lol:
Could be both...:gay1:
Just remember to freeze whatever you make for at least 24 hours.
I wouldn't use a grater, just a minute or so wtb a food processor will leave some chunks in it.
You could get Masago from Costal Seafoods in Minneapolis.
I called them today but they can't get any at the moment from their suppliers. They should have it again in a couple weeks.
I called them today but they can't get any at the moment from their suppliers. They should have it again in a couple weeks.
+1 matt. By using a food processor or blender you'll get a big variety of sizes for everyone. Graters will only give you one size "chunck". In a pinch it isn't terrible though I'd imagine. Different fish like to eat different size particles, so this way everyone will be happy. Your LPS will love it too! When I feed, I'll put a little bit in the water to let everything know food is coming. Then I'll put in the rest of the food about 10 minutes later. This gives the LPS a chance to open up so they get a good meal too.
Though some call for Gelatin to firm it up, I've read that the gelatin isn't the best for the tank. Some fish apparently don't like it much. I took a look at some recipes online and at Rod's food and here's what I put in mine:
Fish
Squid
(both blended together until "minced" - not 5 minutes for sure though)
Clams
Nori
Garlic
Broccoli
Carrots
Oyster eggs
PE mysis
Masago (flying fish roe)
baby Brine Shrimp
a little cycclopeeze or quality flake food to help with coloration
Everything is fresh - not cooked. I blend everything but the last 5 ingredients together until it's a mushy, chunky paste. Then I add in the last ingredients and hand mix together. Next time I make it I've been thinking about adding in some rotifers for coral food. Buy as much of the fishy stuff from an asian food store as it seems to be a little cheaper there. My fish seem to love this, and depending on your fish (more tangs or veggie guys) you can add more vegi matter. Just make sure you have SOME veggie matter as even fish need roughage to keep regular
Couple of questions.
What kind of fish have you used?
Do you add any water to the blender?
Do you add anything like selcon?
I'm thinking of making some and reusing a big cube pack from some other food I just finished to make it easier to portion.
kylesmoney
Senior Member
I take no issue with the statement, but for some reason I cant ever imagine another time where a statement like this could come up in conversation :gay1:
I made my first batch between Thanksgiving and Christmas. So far fish love it and all in all about 1/4-1/2 the cost of buying prepared. I did have to buy a cheapy blender as wife not to crazy out using the good one.
I just went to the local asian store and picked all a variety of frozen seafoods, along with some reef chili, seleco, nori, oyster eggs I already had, cyclopeeze I already had, a little pe mysis in there.
Added a cup of the goop to quart sized zippies and freeze them flat.
I've had no issues and plan to do it again.
I just went to the local asian store and picked all a variety of frozen seafoods, along with some reef chili, seleco, nori, oyster eggs I already had, cyclopeeze I already had, a little pe mysis in there.
Added a cup of the goop to quart sized zippies and freeze them flat.
I've had no issues and plan to do it again.
Pomacanthus
Senior Member
When i used to make food i liked to add Selcon or if really desperate Kent Spirilina vitamins to the mix. Gelatin BAD, RO water GOOD. Homemade food was preferred to commercial and I saw very good results in fish overall, but time consuming, smelly, and no fun to make.
The zoo makes their own food, they use a variation of the diet that Stephen Spotte formulated. Couple of things to add to the conversation.
Geletin is not bad for your fish. It is essentially pure protein...highly digestable protein. It is included in Formula 1 and Form. 2. It is only there to hold everything together, and not necessarily a nutrtient. But it is NOT bad for fish. Fish have a high digestability of protein, but a low digetability of carbohydrates. This is why a gel based food is better for your fish than a pelleted or flaked food...which rely on carbohydrates for a structure and to adjust density (to make the food float).
Second, if you guys are planning on making your own food, I would highly recommend an omega-3 HUFA mixture like SELCON. As an alternative, you could add a large variety of seafoods in the hopes of getting all the HUFA you need for a variety of animals...or you could just add the supplement.
I would also strongly recommend a vitamin mixture and in addition a stabilized Vit C. supplement. Vit. C is the most volitile of the vitamins, and if you are using straight ascorbic acid (which is the ingredient in most vitamin preps.) you can assume that you are losing a great deal of Vit C before it ever makes it into your fish. I would also recommend adding the vitamins as a final step in the preperation, it is possible to lose a percentage of your vitamins as a reaction to heating.
I've been reading about the Pappone method, and I have to admit I'm not impressed. There is nothing for me to believe that it is actually an AA supplement as they claim...at least not any more than the AA supplied by the seafood (which is not exactly negligable.) Also, I don't see any reason to think that you need to supplement AA if you are feeding a good quality food on a regular basis...particularly if you are providing plankton type foods to your corals. I'd try the vodka method as an introduction of carbon rather than the sugar.
My $0.02.
Geletin is not bad for your fish. It is essentially pure protein...highly digestable protein. It is included in Formula 1 and Form. 2. It is only there to hold everything together, and not necessarily a nutrtient. But it is NOT bad for fish. Fish have a high digestability of protein, but a low digetability of carbohydrates. This is why a gel based food is better for your fish than a pelleted or flaked food...which rely on carbohydrates for a structure and to adjust density (to make the food float).
Second, if you guys are planning on making your own food, I would highly recommend an omega-3 HUFA mixture like SELCON. As an alternative, you could add a large variety of seafoods in the hopes of getting all the HUFA you need for a variety of animals...or you could just add the supplement.
I would also strongly recommend a vitamin mixture and in addition a stabilized Vit C. supplement. Vit. C is the most volitile of the vitamins, and if you are using straight ascorbic acid (which is the ingredient in most vitamin preps.) you can assume that you are losing a great deal of Vit C before it ever makes it into your fish. I would also recommend adding the vitamins as a final step in the preperation, it is possible to lose a percentage of your vitamins as a reaction to heating.
I've been reading about the Pappone method, and I have to admit I'm not impressed. There is nothing for me to believe that it is actually an AA supplement as they claim...at least not any more than the AA supplied by the seafood (which is not exactly negligable.) Also, I don't see any reason to think that you need to supplement AA if you are feeding a good quality food on a regular basis...particularly if you are providing plankton type foods to your corals. I'd try the vodka method as an introduction of carbon rather than the sugar.
My $0.02.