So, I went out and got a condylactis anenome today and am a little concerned about the species of anemone...Do you think this will be ok in a tank with lots of coral and zoos and fish? I don't want them to eat my corals etc...Anyone know anything about this? I did some research and found out that they are aggressive....HELP!
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Awhile back I had several Haitian Condylactis Anemones. They sure did move around alot. If you have some pretty coral I'd be mindful to keep them out of the way or they'll go Buh-Bye!
-Rox
Awhile back I had several Haitian Condylactis Anemones. They sure did move around alot. If you have some pretty coral I'd be mindful to keep them out of the way or they'll go Buh-Bye!
-Rox
They have been in there for 36 hrs and fed them and all three ate 2 shrimp apiece...They are doing great and are getting their color back.
With all due respect, WHY would you buy an animal without researching its compatibility first? That's a waste of money and smacks of cruelty to animals.
I did do my research and found that some say they are reef safe and some say they are not, for instance look at this post the same thing happened one person says one thing and another says something totally different. So I came to you guys not for flaming but to confirm what I had read. With that said I still not have gotten a educated answer on my question so if any one has experience with these please let me know how it turned out. Lastly if you really get down to it there is nothing else in the tank at the time being so compatibility is not really an issue at the moment.
This is some of what I have found on other reefing sites
First, Condylactus anemones are relatively hardy compared to SOME of the clownfish host anemones, but you can't "put em' in crap-water, predators, smoosh them with rocks, and even leave them out of the water for a couple of days." If you do any of the above, they will die! They are comparable to bubble-tip anemones (Entacmaea quadricolor) in terms of hardiness; perhaps even less hardy. They require reef-quality water and BRIGHT light to survive.
They are NOT active movers when kept under proper conditions. This includes the right food, water conditions and light. Again, they are comparable in this regard to the bubble-tip anemones, and much less active than many other anemones, such as Heteractis magnifica.
Continuing... Most clownfish will not host in Condylactus anemones, but a few will, such as Clarki's and Maroon's. Other species sometimes adapt to them as well.
Condylactus anemones can certainly "sting" corals but are far less potent than many of the Pacific Ocean host-anemones in this regard, especially the carpet anemones, which are notorious fish-eaters.
Finally, Condylactus anemones will NOT "spread like the plague." As far as I know, they do not reproduce by fission, as do the bubble-tip anemones, aiptasia anemones and majano anemones. And they don't get as large as most of the Pacific host anemones. I have a purple Condylactus anemone in a 58 gallon reef aquarium for the past year. While it has gotten larger, it has NEVER moved and NEVER "spread."
In conclusion, the purple and pink varieties of Condylactus anemones make spectacular additions to a reef aquarium, as long as you understand their needs. Most of the specimens seen for sale in local stores are near death and look horrible. Once they recover though, they look great in an aquarium. Although they normally don't host clownfish, there are a lot of inveterbrates that use this species as a host, including some shrimp and crabs. These are equally fascinating relationships to observe.
So if I am miss informed please refrain from flaming and help me out instead.
This is some of what I have found on other reefing sites
First, Condylactus anemones are relatively hardy compared to SOME of the clownfish host anemones, but you can't "put em' in crap-water, predators, smoosh them with rocks, and even leave them out of the water for a couple of days." If you do any of the above, they will die! They are comparable to bubble-tip anemones (Entacmaea quadricolor) in terms of hardiness; perhaps even less hardy. They require reef-quality water and BRIGHT light to survive.
They are NOT active movers when kept under proper conditions. This includes the right food, water conditions and light. Again, they are comparable in this regard to the bubble-tip anemones, and much less active than many other anemones, such as Heteractis magnifica.
Continuing... Most clownfish will not host in Condylactus anemones, but a few will, such as Clarki's and Maroon's. Other species sometimes adapt to them as well.
Condylactus anemones can certainly "sting" corals but are far less potent than many of the Pacific Ocean host-anemones in this regard, especially the carpet anemones, which are notorious fish-eaters.
Finally, Condylactus anemones will NOT "spread like the plague." As far as I know, they do not reproduce by fission, as do the bubble-tip anemones, aiptasia anemones and majano anemones. And they don't get as large as most of the Pacific host anemones. I have a purple Condylactus anemone in a 58 gallon reef aquarium for the past year. While it has gotten larger, it has NEVER moved and NEVER "spread."
In conclusion, the purple and pink varieties of Condylactus anemones make spectacular additions to a reef aquarium, as long as you understand their needs. Most of the specimens seen for sale in local stores are near death and look horrible. Once they recover though, they look great in an aquarium. Although they normally don't host clownfish, there are a lot of inveterbrates that use this species as a host, including some shrimp and crabs. These are equally fascinating relationships to observe.
So if I am miss informed please refrain from flaming and help me out instead.
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I kept mine under a year old 55 watt PC for maybe 4 months. I wouldn't call that bright light by any means. Also, when I move it I usually wind up bracing a rock on top of it until it attaches it's foot. never any problems.
I also agree to this completely. Beyond that, it's horrible to the ecosystems we must have some love for (otherwise we wouldn't want to keep them!)
I did do my research and found that some say they are reef safe and some say they are not, for instance look at this post the same thing happened one person says one thing and another says something totally different. So I came to you guys not for flaming but to confirm what I had read.
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So if I am miss informed please refrain form flaming and help me out instead.
Weren't you just posting a week or two ago about putting up your first tank? You may be getting flamed, but I think you may also deserve it.
(1) at the very least you should have been asking these questions before buying;
(2) if your tank is as new as your posts indicate, you should not buy any anemone.
As for help, I'd suggest returning it and slowing down.
patent
regardless of deserving or not i see this as a place to ask and be asked questions if you have nothing better to do then flame the new guy the objective of the web site is not being met.
sorry I asked what seems to be the wrong question ill make sure to ask then buy next time.
sorry I asked what seems to be the wrong question ill make sure to ask then buy next time.
(1) I did give you some advice, take it back. Unless I've got some facts wrong, that is clearly the best thing to do for the anemone.
(2) What is the purpose of the website? To give you half truths and be nice to you while you kill off sea life? IMO, FWIW, I think we have to work here to preserve these animals, and if someone is not ready for one, we should not hesitate to say so.
Every one of those you kill is one less in the ocean. I'm sorry you think my comments are harsh. Maybe they are and I'll get flamed by others, but if so I'm fine with that reprimand, because I posted what I really, and truly, thought was necessary. I'm sure the anemone will live for a couple months in your tank, they usually do, but it will very likely slowly die. If you care about it it should go back. We all lose some animals, I know that, but its different (IMHO) when you are set up to fail.
I wish you well.
patent
I think part of what patent was trying to say is, your tank isn't mature enough to be home to an anenome yet. The ballpark number is 6 months for a tank to mature until you put one in. This varies of course, but allows the tank to stablilize, allows the various algae blooms to occur, and allow you to setup your maintenace routine. Having a sensitive anemone in your tank isn't the right time to figuire out how often and how you plan on doing your topping off and water changes.
From your pictures of your tank, your liverock looks very fresh. It is most likely going to go through a mini-cycle and have various phases of algae blooms occur before your tank would be considered mature. These are natural and occur in almost every new tank. This period of a marine tank is when you just sit back and watch. Nothing good happens fast in this hobby!
It may not be fun, but slowing down will allow you to have much more sucess!!!
Jeff
From your pictures of your tank, your liverock looks very fresh. It is most likely going to go through a mini-cycle and have various phases of algae blooms occur before your tank would be considered mature. These are natural and occur in almost every new tank. This period of a marine tank is when you just sit back and watch. Nothing good happens fast in this hobby!
It may not be fun, but slowing down will allow you to have much more sucess!!!
Jeff
wolrey thank you it would have been nice if every one could have just answerd my questions straight away.
With all due respect, you got the answer to the question you asked. The issues that Hypoxia and Patent were pointing out were valid and likely felt by most of the list, they just didn't respond.
I went back and looked at your threads. Your tank has barely had time to start to cycle let alone be cycled and ready for livestock. Appreciate the fact that you didn't get more flaming.
Like others have said, slow down. These aren't goldfish in a bowl. You are creating an ecosystem and that takes time.
The people on this list are a great resource and you'll find a wealth of information on this list. It amazes me how many people are willing to donate so much of their time and effort to help others get started. Look at your free sand as an example.
Don't get frustrated by the flaming or comments, learn from it and stick around.
I went back and looked at your threads. Your tank has barely had time to start to cycle let alone be cycled and ready for livestock. Appreciate the fact that you didn't get more flaming.
Like others have said, slow down. These aren't goldfish in a bowl. You are creating an ecosystem and that takes time.
The people on this list are a great resource and you'll find a wealth of information on this list. It amazes me how many people are willing to donate so much of their time and effort to help others get started. Look at your free sand as an example.
Don't get frustrated by the flaming or comments, learn from it and stick around.
I had a nice purple one that I kept for about 7 years before giving it away ( of course now wish I had it back ). It was very hardy even in practically total darkness in the sump for a long period of time. But of course like others mentioned, if you tank is going to cycle, it can't withstand significant levels of ammonia. Once established it didn't move around very often. I only recall once. Just like any anemone in a reef tank there is some risk a damage to it or the coral once it begins to move. I personally never had any issues with it eating fish etc. Behaved just like all other anemones in that regard. Clownfish never hosted in it but that was to be expected.
First off, you get my vote for "Best Screen Name." I'd love to know how/why you came up with "crayonbreaker". My grandchild lives your dream on a daily basis. It sure gave me a good laugh.:biggthumpup:
Second, I sure can understand your eagerness to get going on stocking your tank. I've been doing this since 93' and am just a few weeks ahead of you on my current set-up. After all these years it's still hard to wait and I've been struggling with it...:nuts:
Third, If you reread your initial post you'll understand why people reacted the way they did. It gives the impression of an impulse buy into an already stocked tank by an inexperienced reefer. It was nice to read that you did your research ahead of time. With some patience you'll be successful. I'm surprised (actually not so surprised) that the person that bagged it up for you wouldn't have told you your tank wasn't ready. If you've had an algae bloom and die-off I'd just hang onto them. If they are attached it would probably do just as much harm trying to bring them back. Just take it as a lesson learned and hold off on adding anything else until the second week of December. Good luck.
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I didnt know if you had other tank going.
As I said (when we met) and others have added, dont add any livestock for a month. Believe me I know its hard, but with the LS and LR added to dry rock, transport time, did stuff die off???? Its just best to hold off.
If you get into this hobby, you will be looking for a new tank soon.
Key are to get an RO/DI water unit, and make sure your refugium can deal with the bioload and you dont need a skimmer.
That said a condis can live in a goldfish bowl with no heat and no light
Its faster for the goldfish if the bowl wasnt cycled....the norms stay the same regardless.