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Yuk.
I will say I've very grateful for my retail LFS experience I had back in the day. I moved and handled 1000's of fish. The guys who do this day in and day out develop a knack for it which I'm lucky to have kept a little with me.
Kepler
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The new tank?
Yes, it was a failed venture. We did catch the yellow tang, however. We released it back into the tank though as we were worried the remaining two would go rogue on other tank mates with one less tang to deal with.
I think Jon delineated the issues we experienced well. I learned one thing the other night, I will NEVER have a tank without front access. It was the most difficult experience I have had trying to catch a fish in a long time. Not one week prior, I had someone over to pick up a sailfin tang. I am sure he was aprehensive that I didn't have it caught and in the sump prior to his arrival, but he showed up. I killed the lights and caught the fish in under a minute. He literally said to me, 'why isn't it swimming away?'. This red light trick has worked on tang after tang for quite some time. I even caught my female trigger this way. I am quite confident we would have had all of the tangs if we had front access to the tank. When you come from the side or the back, you have everything to deal with. Rockwork, all the wires, light fixtures. I'm 6'5" and I had to get up on a stool just to be able to see down and into the tank, as opposed to looking through the front. It was brutal.
Anyway, lesson learned on front access, I will never give that up.
Hopefully, Chad can hook them out without having to remove the rockwork. Alternatively, you can likely use Bill's trap if you don't insist on attaching it to the glass, just use it in the middle of the tank so the euro bracing is not in the way.
Otherwise., just speed up the delivery of your new tank and remove them in the transfer
Good luck, still surprised and ashamed that we failed.
I think Jon delineated the issues we experienced well. I learned one thing the other night, I will NEVER have a tank without front access. It was the most difficult experience I have had trying to catch a fish in a long time. Not one week prior, I had someone over to pick up a sailfin tang. I am sure he was aprehensive that I didn't have it caught and in the sump prior to his arrival, but he showed up. I killed the lights and caught the fish in under a minute. He literally said to me, 'why isn't it swimming away?'. This red light trick has worked on tang after tang for quite some time. I even caught my female trigger this way. I am quite confident we would have had all of the tangs if we had front access to the tank. When you come from the side or the back, you have everything to deal with. Rockwork, all the wires, light fixtures. I'm 6'5" and I had to get up on a stool just to be able to see down and into the tank, as opposed to looking through the front. It was brutal.
Anyway, lesson learned on front access, I will never give that up.
Hopefully, Chad can hook them out without having to remove the rockwork. Alternatively, you can likely use Bill's trap if you don't insist on attaching it to the glass, just use it in the middle of the tank so the euro bracing is not in the way.
Otherwise., just speed up the delivery of your new tank and remove them in the transfer
Good luck, still surprised and ashamed that we failed.
Kepler
Former: Koletang
He's a machine! Was this with the ice fishing hook?
What were these tangs doing that caused so much headache
What were these tangs doing that caused so much headache
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Yep ice fishing hook, I forgot all about that trick, the tangs we creating havoc fighting amongst themselves and the Chevron andPpurple have killed several wrasses, anthus and other small fish. they had my copper band pinned under a powerhead for the last three days. I was at the point where I dare not put another fish in the tank.
Kepler
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If I remember he uses barb-less hooks.
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The hook has the barb ground off. It took 15 min for the personality of the tank to change, all fish back out CB cruising around. I had not seen my cardinal fish school in a month tonight they were back together as a school.
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If you have rear access, why isn't it the same as front access? Trying to understand as I am building a tank without front access planned
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Because the back is painted and you can't see through it. When I work in the tank, I look through the front and watch what I am doing while I reach through the top. Looking down is a whole other perspective.
Also, any plumbing and wiring may be back there, further impeding your lateral movement.
Also, any plumbing and wiring may be back there, further impeding your lateral movement.
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Correct, depending on your rockwork.
still I'd think the plumbing would be a potential hindrance, unless of course it is all through the bottom of the tank.
An internal coast-to-coast overflow might also introduce some interesting fishing situations.
An option for "painting" the back of the tank but still being able to see through it is to use some sort of fabric with velcro fasteners (or some other fastener) to mount on the back wall of the tank. It gives you the look you want from the front and also is easily removable for behind-the-tank maintenance. Another bonus is that you can wash away salt creep and swap it out for a new color/texture whenever you feel like it.
On my freshwater tanks, i've like the look of a really dark blue felt and a black burlap. really nice subtle texture and it blocks the view of the plumbing!
He asked if it would not nearly be as bad--not if it would be straightforward, haha. Front access is king. Long live the king.
thanks for the replies, but I didn't expect to start a discussion inside of someone elses thread.
Sorry, Jon
Glad to hear you caught your fish, and that the tank is back to a peaceful state
Sorry, Jon
Glad to hear you caught your fish, and that the tank is back to a peaceful state