Durand tank build (1 Viewer)

[Fishfoo]

I’m only allowed 24 doses per day with this pump. Or else yea that would be the ideal setup for sure.

I'm not familiar with Kamoer software, but check to see if there's a way to add multiple schedules to a channel/doser.

For example, in Hydros each schedule has a max dose of 48 times. To increase this. I created two schedules for the same channel/doser

00:00-11:30: 700ml split up across 48 (max) doses
12:00-23:30: 700ml split up across 48 (max) doses

Giving me 96 dosing times throughout 24 hours

 

[Fishfoo]

This may help. If it doesn't auto-start at 8:26 ff to that timestamp. Again, I've never used the app so it may still hard lock at 24 max no matter how many schedules but worth a try.

 

[reef junkie]

It was worth a shot. But max doses per day is 24

 

[Fishfoo]

Dang

 

[reef junkie]

I'm not familiar with Kamoer software, but check to see if there's a way to add multiple schedules to a channel/doser.

For example, in Hydros each schedule has a max dose of 48 times. To increase this. I created two schedules for the same channel/doser

00:00-11:30: 700ml split up across 48 (max) doses
12:00-23:30: 700ml split up across 48 (max) doses

Giving me 96 dosing times throughout 24 hours

Are you using that schedule into your kalk reactor? And if so, are you seeing less settling or better kalk results?

 

[Fishfoo]

I'm not sure what you mean by kalk results. I have it dose 1400ml (from kalk stirrer) split between 96 doses to essentially achieve a slow drip throughout the entire day, which I hope to reduce settling/ph rollercoaster/etc. 96 is very likely overkill but that's how I had it on my GHL and seemed to work fine. compared to when I used kalk in my ato the level of settling/caking is night and day. But that's all I have to compare it to.


Here’s my setup. It drips into my bio media section of the sump Directly into a drain nozzle which drains into my return section to the left of it. This section was supposed to be a fuge but I don’t run one.

 

[reef junkie]

I'm not sure what you mean by kalk results. I have it dose 1400ml (from kalk stirrer) split between 96 doses to essentially achieve a slow drip throughout the entire day, which I hope to reduce settling/ph rollercoaster/etc. 96 is very likely overkill but that's how I had it on my GHL and seemed to work fine. compared to when I used kalk in my ato the level of settling/caking is night and day.

That was the info I was looking for. Thx.

 

[Fishfoo]

As long as your ph trends show a gradual increase/decrease throughout the day and not a rollercoaster I’d say you got nothing to worry about. Because many people use kalk in their ato and I’d imagine each time that kicks on it doses 100ml+ depending on total water volume.

My most successful tank was supplemented primarily via kalk through ato.

 

[reef junkie]

I went back to the single doser pump but added a t and have two dosers now running 24 doses per day from each doser. So now I’m able to spread that 3200ml over 48 doses or every 30min. Need to clean the reactor tomorrow and top it off again with kalk. But be interesting to see if it changes anything on my ph. Assume it should just level things off a little and have a little more flat line parameters. At least that’s what i hope for lol. Will clean the lines up once I know everything is working properly.

 

[asifiqbal2]

Did you combine the AFR and Kalk lines to save space / tube management? Do the two react in any way?

 

[Fishfoo]

Did you combine the AFR and Kalk lines to save space / tube management? Do the two react in any way?

I believe he's using them both for kalk to achieve more dosing periods throughout the day. My guess is the one pump used to be for AFR but has now been repurposed.

 

[reef junkie]

^^^^^^^^^^
What he said!

AFR is on its own. Since the dosing pumps only allow 24 doses per day the kalk dose is doubled up via 2 dosing pumps.

I am noticing that the kalk pumps don’t stir or mix up the settles kalk powder sitting on the bottom of the reactor as much as the new dosing pumps. Must be a faster dose on the new pumps.

I’ve been noticing that as my kalk gets weaker my no3 and po4 go up. Corals must absorb more po4 and no3 when my alk is closer to the 8.5 range. Today I tested and alk was around 7.3. At the higher ranger of alk no3 sits around 12-15ppm and po4 .03-.05. Today with the alk being lower my no3 was at 24 and po4 was .15. In was due to clean my reactor and top off with new powder so it will interesting to see as my alk goes up if my other numbers will come down.

 

[Fishfoo]

^^^^^^^^^^
What he said!

AFR is on its own. Since the dosing pumps only allow 24 doses per day the kalk dose is doubled up via 2 dosing pumps.

I am noticing that the kalk pumps don’t stir or mix up the settles kalk powder sitting on the bottom of the reactor as much as the new dosing pumps. Must be a faster dose on the new pumps.

I’ve been noticing that as my kalk gets weaker my no3 and po4 go up. Corals must absorb more po4 and no3 when my alk is closer to the 8.5 range. Today I tested and alk was around 7.3. At the higher ranger of alk no3 sits around 12-15ppm and po4 .03-.05. Today with the alk being lower my no3 was at 24 and po4 was .15. In was due to clean my reactor and top off with new powder so it will interesting to see as my alk goes up if my other numbers will come down.

Not sure about nitrates, but I know kalk decreases po4. Tbh I forget how/why

 

[reef junkie]

Not sure about nitrates, but I know kalk decreases po4. Tbh I forget how/why

Ok that’s interesting. I’ll need to monitor this better then and see what a fresh batch of kalk powder does.

I’m still trying new things with my co2 scrubber. I’m back to using 2 reactors but with different sponges in them. I had some dish scrubbing style that had way larger holes like @Varig recommended. The reactors still choke off the skimmer a bit but I feel it’s less then when the other sponges were being used and the skimmer just skims a little wetter. Ph goes 7.6-8 swing during a 24 hour period. Now as I’m typing this I’m actually wondering if when I went to one chamber on the co2 scrubber and larger holes on the sponges if to much humidity is going back to the skimmer and less in the chambers. I hit 8.4 when I first added the new co2 media but it didn’t last long and since has been slowly decreasing no matter what combination I try. I don’t see all the moisture in the canister anymore like I was but I’m not seeing the numbers I was either. See what this new again setup does over the week and adjust from there.

 

[asifiqbal2]

What I meant is your output lines of the AFR and Kalk line is merged into one tube, am I correct?
For instance I use a versa to continually drip kalk so there is always Kalk in the line… so my question really was do they ever react or get in contact considering the dosing lines are merged before they hit the water

 

[reef junkie]

What I meant is your output lines of the AFR and Kalk line is merged into one tube, am I correct?
For instance I use a versa to continually drip kalk so there is always Kalk in the line… so my question really was do they ever react or get in contact considering the dosing lines are merged before they hit the water

No they are not connected. The afr comes from one of the f4 pumps and the 2 f1 pumps are connected and feed the kalk reactor.

 

[asifiqbal2]

No they are not connected. The afr comes from one of the f4 pumps and the 2 f1 pumps are connected and feed the kalk reactor.

Ah gotcha I see

 

[reef junkie]

Increasing the number of dose into the kalk reactor has increases my alk reading over the last week. I was always around that 8.5-9 range. But over the last week dosing the same amount of water into the reactor but into 48 doses instead of 24 I was at 10.5 dkh this morning. I adjusted the all for reef dose down a bit so hopefully it was enough to get back into range. Im still not seeing great results from my Co2 scrubber or PH but ive sort of given up. It’s consistent now of 7.8 at the lowest and 8.14 at the highest.

Ive got most of the tank dialed in so it can run for 2 weeks without any assistance from me. The only thing I need to work on now is the skimmer. Not sure how I want to tackle this yet so plans are still in the mix.

Chaeto stopped growing when I hit zero po4 and continues to not grow with my nutrients where they are now. It’s still very green but ive not needed to trim in months. Im thinking i might take it out just a little nervous on how the tank will adjust.

That most of the boring updates. Corals are still growing like crazy. SPS have now reached the top of the water and are peaking out to say hi. LOL

 

[Fishfoo]

Were the two dosers calibrated recently? That's the only thing I could think off. That or they just grew accustomed to the 24 doses. Idk, corals are weird

 

[reef junkie]

Were the two dosers calibrated recently? That's the only thing I could think off. That or they just grew accustomed to the 24 doses. Idk, corals are weird

I recalibrated when I set them up for this task as well as a day or so later to dble check. Always nervous about over dosing after I did that with the chaeto grow.

I was thinking maybe the kalk reactor was mixing better. Less settling or full saturation for longer. Never thought about the corals could be absorbing less dkh with the more doses.